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To: penguino

"We're informing the Islamic Nation that the production and enrichment of uranium, in reference to making nuclear bombs, are no longer the monopoly of the Crusaders and tyrants of the world. Our attempts to create small bombs with great destructive power have been successful."

No idea on the credibility, but if it is, then the use of the phrase "enrichment of uranium" is key. My limited understanding is that the easiest, low-tech way to do that is with centrifuges. That takes space. Unlike bio or chem, a double-wide won't do.

I don't see how they could do that by themselves in their current position. If they had a "base" (like they did in Sudan and Afghanistan) then it is possible they could equip the manufacturing process through Khan or the black market. But our strategy (Bush Doctrine) of denying them nations from which to base makes this unlikely in the current environment.

So assuming the allusion to uranium is credible (and they could just be spouting as that has been in the news of late), it means they are waiting on or have just received delivery from a supplier as they cannot enrich uranium themselves undetected like ricin or anthrax.

The list of realistic suspect sources you can put on one hand and have fingers left over. Either it is a non-state actor (black market dealer such as Khan), or a state that is willing to risk that play. There are many bad nations, but not many who enrich uranium. And most of those would not risk giving nuclear material to a group than is hell-bent on destroying an American city. Only a rogue terror nation would bet the house on that kind of play.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020129-11.html

Our nation will continue to be steadfast and patient and persistent in the pursuit of two great objectives.  First, we will shut down terrorist camps, disrupt terrorist plans, and bring terrorists to justice.  And, second, we must prevent the terrorists and regimes who seek chemical, biological or nuclear weapons from threatening the United States and the world. . . .

Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror from threatening America or our friends and allies with weapons of mass destruction.  Some of these regimes have been pretty quiet since September the 11th.  But we know their true nature.  

North Korea is a regime arming with missiles and weapons of mass destruction, while starving its citizens. Iran aggressively pursues these weapons and exports terror, while an unelected few repress the Iranian people's hope for freedom. Iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward America and to support terror.  The Iraqi regime has plotted to develop anthrax, and nerve gas, and nuclear weapons for over a decade.  This is a regime that has already used poison gas to murder thousands of its own citizens -- leaving the bodies of mothers huddled over their dead children.  This is a regime that agreed to international inspections -- then kicked out the inspectors. This is a regime that has something to hide from the civilized world.

States like these, and their terrorist allies, constitute an axis of evil, arming to threaten the peace of the world.  By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger.  They could provide these arms to terrorists, giving them the means to match their hatred.  They could attack our allies or attempt to blackmail the United States.  In any of these cases, the price of indifference would be catastrophic.

We will work closely with our coalition to deny terrorists and their state sponsors the materials, technology, and expertise to make and deliver weapons of mass destruction.  We will develop and deploy effective missile defenses to protect America and our allies from sudden attack.  And all nations should know:  America will do what is necessary to ensure our nation's security.

We'll be deliberate, yet time is not on our side.  I will not wait on events, while dangers gather.  I will not stand by, as peril draws closer and closer.  The United States of America will not permit the world's most dangerous regimes to threaten us with the world's most destructive weapons.  Our war on terror is well begun, but it is only begun.  This campaign may not be finished on our watch -- yet it must be and it will be waged on our watch. We can't stop short.  If we stop now -- leaving terror camps intact and terror states unchecked -- our sense of security would be false and temporary.  History has called America and our allies to action, and it is both our responsibility and our privilege to fight freedom's fight.  


4,038 posted on 11/17/2004 6:43:57 AM PST by callmejoe
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Calls received in three states lead to Calif. court evacuations


SAN DIEGO --Authorities evacuated three San Diego courthouses Tuesday after law enforcement officials in three states were told that explosives had been planted in the buildings. Searches found no explosives.
The threats from an anonymous caller or callers were made to authorities in Maine, Rhode Island and Washington state and then relayed to police in San Diego, said Chris Saunders, a spokesman for the San Diego County Sheriff's office.....snip
http://www.sierratimes.com/04/11/17/Calls_received_in_three_states_lead_to_Calif._court_evacuations.htm


4,039 posted on 11/17/2004 6:52:56 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: callmejoe
Thanks for the reminder of the 2002 SotUnion speech. The upcoming SotUnion should be interesting.

I hope the President, and his "new" administration feel that preemptive measures against such regimes as North Korea and Iran are the prudent thing to do and follow through. I know a lot of folks don't like the idea of pre-emptive, but, I honestly believe that diplomacy will not work. Every drop of diplomacy has been rung out of the effort.

The unacceptable behavior of N.K. and Iran has been long standing, way before our current administration. And yes, as you've said before, the potential for more deaths is quite true with these two rogue nations as they have developed the means for mass destruction. But, what choice do we have? Their leaders are not rational individuals. I know I sound quite hawkish but I believe we are up against the wall on this, with no other viable option.

From the 2002 State of the Union portion you posted: "We'll be deliberate, yet time is not on our side. I will not wait on events, while dangers gather. I will not stand by, as peril draws closer and closer. The United States of America will not permit the world's most dangerous regimes to threaten us with the world's most destructive weapons."

We need to hold true to this statement. Two years have passed and I'm afraid that passage of time has only emboldened the likes of Iran and N.K. I truly believe the danger is gathering. The next 2-4 years are going to be mighty interesting.

4,060 posted on 11/17/2004 8:34:59 AM PST by Oorang (I want to breathe the fresh air of freedom, at the dawn of every day, it's the American way.)
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