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Since you're typing today, hope it means you're feeling better!
As to the other, prayers for our military in Fallujah.
Dated Oct. 29...
Temple-Mount Tomb For Arafat Is Potential 'Nightmare' For Israel
BY BENNY AVNI - Special to the Sun
October 29, 2004
UNITED NATIONS - Arabs, Israelis, and major international powers began thinking yesterday about the day after Yasser Arafat, the one immovable object on the ever-shifting Arab-Israeli scene for nearly four decades.
The visibly ill 75-year-old Mr. Arafat, who has dominated Palestinian Arab politics since the late 1960s, was scheduled to undergo medical treatment in Paris today, leaving his Ramallah headquarters for the first time since Israel confined him there in May 2002.
Although late last night both Arab and Israeli sources shied away from final confirmation of Mr. Arafat's trip, they were bracing themselves for the possibility of even his temporary absence.
"We are going to continue with the separation plan either way," Prime Minister Sharon's spokesman, Raanan Gissin, told The New York Sun, referring to Israel's unilateral removal of all Jews from Gaza settlements, as well as from four settlements in the West Bank, which passed earlier this week in a historic Knesset vote.
More immediately, Israelis were concerned about nightmare scenarios of unrest in case Mr. Arafat passes away. Military and police forces brought out old "day-after" plans of deployment along possible flashpoints, where grieving Arab crowds might take up arms against Israelis.
"Our biggest nightmare is that, if Arafat dies, a Palestinian mob will come and hustle his body away and try to bury him on the Temple Mount," an unnamed security source was quoted by Y-net, the Web site of Yediot Ahronot, Israel's largest circulation daily.
According to other reports, Mr. Arafat and his aides have actually tried to negotiate his burial there with Israel. The site, holy to Muslim and Jews, is known in Arabic as Haram A-Sharif and Israeli authorities were reported to vehemently oppose such a burial.
Mr. Arafat's trip to Paris was made possible after Prime Minister Sharon, through his adviser Dov Weisglass, assured the Palestinian Arab prime minister, Mahmoud Abbas, that Mr. Arafat would be allowed to leave, and to return afterwards, according to Israel Radio.
Mr. Abbas was said by both Palestinian and Israeli sources to be one of three leaders taking charge of Palestinian Authority affairs in Mr. Arafat's absence. The other two were Mr. Abbas's predecessor, Ahmed Qurei, and the head of the Palestinian National Council, Salim Zaanoun.
The men, all in their 70s, are known as "the Tunis generation" of Fatah leaders, a reference to the last residence of Mr. Arafat's party loyalists before setting up shop in the West Bank and Gaza in the aftermath of the 1993 Oslo Accords. They are unpopular among younger Arabs who grew up under Israeli rule.
"This could end up in chaos, where everybody is against everybody," a Bar Ilan University professor of political studies, Gerald Steinberg, told the Sun. To solidify power, any of the old men would need the backing of younger Fatah security chiefs, such as Muhammed Dahlan or his nemesis Jibril Rajoub. They would need to fend off any challenge from the Gaza based Islamists of Hamas.
Mr. Steinberg pointed out to the possibility of outside intervention, as in a British initiative that has quietly operated for some months in Ramallah under the title "center for operation." The center was built to help solidify all security forces under one roof.
The competing security forces structure had been created by Mr. Arafat to assure that none of their commanders ever achieved enough power to overshadow his own. With Mr. Arafat too frail now to exert such power, the British-inspired initiative might succeed now, Mr. Steinberg said.
Last night, a private jet supplied by President Chirac of France was expected to take Mr. Arafat on a journey via Amman, Jordan, to a Paris hospital. Even his wife, Souha, who lives in luxury in Paris, appeared yesterday in Ramallah, where she has not set foot since fleeing in 2000.
Wishing his "warmest wishes for your recovery," Mr. Chirac wrote a letter to Mr. Arafat, in which he added, "France, as you know, backs the aspiration you embody for the creation of a viable, prosperous and peaceful Palestinian state alongside a state of Israel assured of its security."
Asked whether the Bush administration wishes the same for Mr. Arafat, State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said, "The gentleman is very ill. This is a matter of seeing that an ill person gets the medical care they need for health."
Like Mr. Sharon, the Bush administration has considered Mr. Arafat an unfit partner for a negotiated solution. Mr. Sharon's separation plan, supported by Washington, was envisioned as a unilateral Israeli step. However, "If new opportunities arise, we will reassess the possibility of renewing negotiations" with the Palestinian Arabs, Mr. Gissin told the Sun yesterday.
He explained that Israel has demanded that before any negotiations, the Palestinian Arabs must fulfill steps required by the roadmap, like ending terrorist activities and reforming the government, which was deemed too corrupt under Mr. Arafat.
But Mr. Steinberg said he doubted the separation plan could remain unchanged now. "The premise, that there is no one to talk to, will weaken," he argued. "Ironically, the settlers now might demand renewal of negotiations with the Palestinians, to assure that Sharon's plan is delayed."
http://www.nysun.com/article/3966
So I guess he has no reflexes etc, but they are keeping him intubated and keeping the blood flowing under full code protocol. Meanwhile everyone's getting into position in the middle east and probably *elsewhere.
"Mr. Steinberg pointed out to the possibility of outside intervention, as in a British initiative that has quietly
operated for some months in Ramallah under the title "center for operation."
Gee, outside intervention...who do you think they have in mind for this?(Swan song for the UN starting to warm up?)
The lighthouse thing came to play shortly after all the 'diver' incidents.
My brain has narrowed it down to starting in early May of this year. (Don't know which thread that would be)
The first incident was a woman in RI calling 911 to report 2 men in a skiff breaking down the door to the Pomham Lighthouse. Those men got away, but they were spotted either loading or unloading something from/to the boat.
The second incident shortly thereafter was a story of boaters, '4 men with a language barrier' who had to be rescued at night. The men reported their location as being near the Pomham Lighthouse, but it turned out they were MUCH farther south.
The third incident somewhere in the same general area was a boat that was beached and left abandoned. The story was odd, in that it seemed there was quite a search going on for the owner of the boat.
I believe there were other incidents right around the RI area, but I'm over 40 and the memory cells fade in and out...
Oh, LNG tankers galore in this area...
Oh boy. Sounds like you needed to continue reading too, null and void. You don't really think that was a government block, do you? If the government takes down a site, I doubt they announce it to the world in such a way with an in-your-face graphic. Hackers do that. The government may issue a press release, that's all.
Anyone can throw up a graphic on a page, you know. Especially site owners.
That entire site was assessible except for the home page.
I have been going to IH for 2 years and the owner is a jokester, as I said. There are quite a few changes he makes with the site. In fact, not one person has commented on something funny that Regis has had up on almost every page there for weeks now. I guess no one noticed it.
Maybe you have to be a regular...
Also, LayoutGuru2 said that the owner blocked the main page because of bandwidth issues. That may indeed be the reason behind this. LG2 also has familiarity with IH, and so he would know. IH sometimes gets swamped. But generally it will just go offline when that occurs for many visiters.
I hope that takes care of this. There is no reason for any alarm.
By now, I trust you have read the rest of the posts on this issue.
It was cathartic, I must admit.
If the Bin Laden tape comes out today, then it would seem so.
So (tin foil hat firmly in place...), here's a possible scenario:
If you were a top Al Qaida strategist, you would benefit if there was a terrible provocation against the Arabs/Islam just before you announced your big attack. Hysterical mobs in the street can be useful in oh so many ways. But you gotta have a plan, and be ready...
Problem: You only get to launch your big attack once, and it's for all the marbles. So you need to be absolutely sure the provocation will occur. Furthermore, you need to be able to time the provocation so that you can have all your various plans ready to go.
The only way you can control the timing is to commit the provocation yourself. (You can easily blame it on the Israelis, and the victim will be rewarded by Allah.)
So... Could it be that Al Qaida poisoned Arafat as step 1 in their big plan????
The story is already circulating that Arafat was poisoned. (The French have done nothing to quell this rumor, and their "inability" to make a diagnosis makes it easy to feed this rumor.)
Just to add some "fun", the Palestinians are claiming Arafat has the absolute right to be buried in a place the Israelis will absolutely forbid him to be buried. This is, of course, still more reason for Arabs to take to the streets, blow themselves up, etc.
If Binny's latest tape comes out today, I think the dots may be connected. If so, this one will be the real deal.
LOL!
THANK YOU!
Here's something to dig into...Russian nuclear mishap?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1271758/posts
There are just problems everywhere...
BULLETIN >> RUSSIAN OFFICIALS INVESTIGATE NUCLEAR MISHAP
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1271758/posts
Hahahahha!
Gee, outside intervention...who do you think they have in mind for this?(Swan song for the UN starting to warm up?)
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He better be talking to GOD first. The UN is a joke.
Good Afternoon folks. Just checking in. Nothing unusual to report in my area. All's quiet. For now.......
Add to that the rumors that Arafat has AIDs...more reason for OBL to hate his guts enough to poison him. The troika that is supposed to be in power for the PA now all have their own reasons too (and they were with him when he was drinking soup, vomited and fell ill.)
Thanks Cindy.
Book mark for studying later tonight...
TM joint venture anyone?
Tough to speak freely when you're dead. Sheesh.
Just got on, trying to catch up. Any word on the supposed new OBL video? Heard nothing on Fox this AM- and Coast to Coast had some fellow talking about age reversal...gave up and went to sleep.
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