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The sad, sad fact is that not enough Americans were killed on 9/11. It was not so overwhelmingly traumatic that we became 100% united and determined. That there could still be people out there who don't want to do what is necessary "because it's hard" boggles the mind. Obi-Wan is a very smart man (or woman).
1 posted on 11/01/2004 5:05:07 PM PST by LS
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"The sad, sad fact is that not enough Americans were killed on 9/11. It was not so overwhelmingly traumatic that we became 100% united and determined. That there could still be people out there who don't want to do what is necessary "because it's hard" boggles the mind. Obi-Wan is a very smart man (or woman)."


I seriously think that a large percentage of democrats could never be swayed regardless of the act against us. I think they were truly terrified after 9/11, not of the terrorists, but of patriotism because it is a unifying factor. They have worked for decades to divide this country by race, religion, age, economic level, union vs non-union etc etc etc. The thought of everyone having a common goal is unbearable to them. They just hid in their holes for a while and planned their attacks for when it was politically safe to do so.

I remember talking to someone on-line about the dems holding up the homeland defense dept. for political purposes and he tried every angle to try and convince me that I was wrong. Finally, he was forced to admit he was a union employee for the govt. When I hit him hard for not admitting this he said that I just didn't understand because they needed the union to make sure work was shared evenly etc etc.

I couldn't believe that we were talking about defending our country from another 9-11 and this guy was only worried about not having to do more work than the guy in the cubicle next to him. I think that is kind of what defines a democrat. They just can't think outside of their narrow issue. They can't think outside of their cubicle, their racial issues, their choice issues etc. If they were capable of considering their parties overall platform they wouldn't be a dem b/c they would see that overall they were losing everything just to gain one narrow issue. This is also why it is so frustrating to debate one. They will lie about issues they don't even care about and never admit that they are really just focused on one selfish unrelated issue.


47 posted on 11/01/2004 6:50:21 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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"The sad, sad fact is that not enough Americans were killed on 9/11. It was not so overwhelmingly traumatic that we became 100% united and determined"


If not 3,000 dead, then how many will it take for the vast majority of American's to take this threat seriously? Polls show that 47% or more of the electorate could vote for the man who pines for the days when these animals were just a nuisance. A man who will fight a more sensitive WOT. A man who will make sure any actions against these barbarians pass a global test. A man who voted to cut the military and intelligence every chance he had. Some libs are even suggesting that we should negotiate with OBL (reported by Rush today).

Is is just me? Does anyone else see this for the absurdity and wretchedness it is?!! If 3,000 people (several of whom I grew up with in NJ)being murdered by an Islamofascist who endorses Kerry is not enough to make this a landslide for Bush; then how many will have to die before we support, in an overwhelming fashion, a candidate who, through words and ACTIONS, begins each day working to kill these SOB's?

If not this then what what trauma will be required for this country to become 100% united and determined?


48 posted on 11/01/2004 6:55:25 PM PST by Mase (The gift of speech is not always accompanied by the power of thought.)
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If you worded your first post poorly, and I don't think you did, that's because we unfortunatley have to address these posts to the lowest common denominator, to the humourless, unimaginative couch potatoes that infest these forums. It was clear from the getgo!

But the point is well taken, the shock of 9/11 was too weak, if any, since it was all experienced through colour television, and we've all become desensitized to violence and death and mayhem on the idiot box. In a deeper sense, subconsciously, for many it was all another moving picture experience. By now the daily Iraq beheadings have reached the same stage. Yawn, say the masses in front of their 36 inch screens.

50 posted on 11/01/2004 7:31:19 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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We were very united on 911. What happened was the media working with the DNC decided the only way to take out the President was to cast doubt on the war on terror. They did a brilliant job of propaganda, trying to effect a bloodless coup. Let's just pray that they were not successful. We shall all know tomorrow.


66 posted on 11/01/2004 11:48:22 PM PST by ladyinred (John Kerry has a plan to change the national symbol of an Eagle to a Chicken)
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Bump


69 posted on 11/02/2004 1:24:32 AM PST by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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I realy don't think that's the problem.

I really think that no matter what, 25-33% of the electorate is 'terminally lib,' and that goes if 9-11 victimized 6,000, 9,000, 12,000 or 15,000. Their minds just filter and register things a certain (odd) way. Their reaction is superficially the same.

I think, similarly, that 25-33% of the electorate is 'terminally conservative,' and react to things also according to their world view.

The balance, the middle 34-50%, has no particularly strong opinions either way. I don't think that they would be reacting much differently if 6,000 people were killed om 9-11, or 12,000. Some will gravitate to the right, others to the left, others will be terminally 'open minded,' which is to say 'empty headed.'

None of this really has much to do with a body count. People belive what they believe. That's all.


70 posted on 11/02/2004 1:31:20 AM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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The fact that Al Qaeda hasn't managed to attack us before the election has to give Bush a major boost.

I'm sure many undedcideds have been holding their breath waiting to see if we would be attacked by terrorists before the election.

74 posted on 11/02/2004 4:29:46 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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This is the fork in the road--the election where we learn once and for all whether Americans think character matters.

Or will the critical question in this election be, "What's in it for me?"

Go right, or go left.

81 posted on 11/02/2004 4:36:27 AM PST by MHT
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