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A TO THE POINT HEADS-UP (John Kerry was dishonorably discharged from the military)
Swiftvets.com ^ | November 1, 2004 | Jack Wheeler

Posted on 11/01/2004 3:46:20 PM PST by stockpirate

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To: stockpirate

Problem is he won't testify before the media about it.

Violating the privacy act is only a misdemeanor punishable by a fine.

I'd be happy to guarantee the $5,000 fine if he'll grow some balls for his country and get this out tonight.

Likely as not, he'd be protected under "whistle blower" laws anyway as Kerry is a gov't official.

Kerry has also stated publicly that he's released ALL his records.... How's middlecoff to know he's lying and didn't already release EVERYTHING?? I mean he's said he released it ALL


61 posted on 11/01/2004 4:03:55 PM PST by kaferhaus
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To: stockpirate

This story will get out sometime after the election. I feel that President Bush being the honest man he is will pardon Kerry for his lies and dishonor to our country.

God bless President Bush and forgive those that would choose political power over what is best for America.


62 posted on 11/01/2004 4:04:21 PM PST by soycd
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To: stockpirate

Bill has agreed to publicly state that to the best of his knowledge and recollection, John Kerry was dishonorably discharged from the military and fought to have this reversed while he (Bill) was SECNAV, which Bill of course refused to do.

Add to that recent research that uncovered documents that prove that some of John Kerry's Vietnam War protest actions were acts of treason. Which if I'm not mistaken, there is no statue of limitations time limit for acts of treason.

The captain is going down. ...And he's taking the ship with him.

Honesty outlives the lie. It always has. It always will.

63 posted on 11/01/2004 4:04:30 PM PST by Zon
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To: Toespi

Unknown.


64 posted on 11/01/2004 4:04:32 PM PST by demlosers
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To: RamingtonStall
Prime time on election-eve is not too late!!!

You'd think Drudge would jump at the chance to use his little red/blue light thingy right about... now.
I said... now.
Matt... NOW!

65 posted on 11/01/2004 4:04:40 PM PST by apastron
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To: stockpirate

Pffft. Too late.


66 posted on 11/01/2004 4:05:08 PM PST by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: silverleaf

I agree that this is not the time, and it should be left alone until after the election....


67 posted on 11/01/2004 4:05:30 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: finallyatexan

I don't think that is the case.


68 posted on 11/01/2004 4:05:31 PM PST by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: stockpirate
It is not too late! Quiters never win and winners never quit!

Well if I could get something to link to that's vetted and concrete then 20K people will see it in the morning on my site. Otherwise I'll just be preaching to the choir.

69 posted on 11/01/2004 4:06:09 PM PST by numberonepal (No Kerry)
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To: stockpirate

He was dishonorably discharged before he was honorably discharged.


70 posted on 11/01/2004 4:06:32 PM PST by Spirochete
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To: kaferhaus

Oh for pete's sake, did Navychief wake up from his afternoon nap and post some more silly crap. You guys are gonna get all worked up again and be left in the cold. If there was something to this story, Carl Rove would have popped it Friday.


71 posted on 11/01/2004 4:06:50 PM PST by bannedfromdu
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To: stockpirate

If this were true it would have come out a long time ago.


72 posted on 11/01/2004 4:06:55 PM PST by biblewonk (Neither was the man created for woman but the woman for the man.)
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To: So Cal Rocket

Middendorf has already done that, the article has already been posted.


73 posted on 11/01/2004 4:06:57 PM PST by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: stockpirate

Just 3 easy questions I wished someone had the guts to ask JFK.

As noted in the New York Sun article this morning by Thomas Lipscomb, curiously, "Kerry spokesman David Wade did not reply when asked if Mr. Kerry was other than honorably discharged before he was honorably discharged."

Perhaps Senator Kerry can clear this up for us.

Question 1: Senator Kerry, "Did you receive any type of discharge from the Navy prior to the honorable discharge posted on your website?

Question 2: Senator Kerry, You withdrew from the 1970 Congressional race in favor of the Reverend Robert Drinan. Were there ever any discussions between you and Reverend Drinan concerning your admission to Boston College Law School? Did Reverend Drinan facilitate your admission to Boston College Law School? Were you advised by Harvard as to the reason for your denial of admission to Law School was due in part to their concern that you would be denied admission to the Bar? (OK, so this is really 3 questions, but the same topic.)

During 1976 and 1977 Senator Edward Kennedy undertook an investigation in order to determine the scope of any counterintelligence abuses by the military. Senator Kennedy subsequently introduced The Foreign Surveillance Act of 1977. This Act describes the defined behavior that could no longer be subject to surveillance without warrants. Again curiously, the Act's defined behavior literally describes Lt. Kerry's behavior upon his return from Viet Nam. This behavior includes "Americans having contact with foreign powers in the case of Americans who were active in the protest against U.S. involvement in Vietnam. Some of them may have attended international conferences at which there were representatives of foreign powers, as defined in the bill, or may have been directly in communication with foreign governments concerning this issue."

Question 3: Senator Kerry, Was your other than honorable discharge from the United States Navy upgraded to honorable subsequent to the legislation introduced by Senator Edward Kennedy and subsequently passed by Congress and signed by President Carter?


74 posted on 11/01/2004 4:07:11 PM PST by infogeekmom (Bush, Burr, Ballantine)
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To: stockpirate

ping for Drudge...


75 posted on 11/01/2004 4:08:17 PM PST by e_castillo
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To: So Cal Rocket

"Middendorf will be in violation of the Privacy Act if he publicly states that Kerry was given a Dishonorable."

Totally agree. The NAVSEC would put himself in a bad spot, he has no right to disclose what JFK's discharge is. It is private info between the department of the Navy and JFK.

And as most have indicated. To little to late. It would be stupid to put pressure on Middendorf at this point. Why should he be asked to do something that is dis-honorable?
It is not fair. We should embrace ethics and fair play and convince our children we play fair and by the books regardless of the circumstances, and show them the stark difference between the left and the right. Two wrongs don't make a right. Right?


76 posted on 11/01/2004 4:08:20 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: stockpirate

Why? We complain all the time about last minute surprises from the Dems. I know what they say is true I just wish it could have come out sooner.


77 posted on 11/01/2004 4:08:51 PM PST by finallyatexan
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To: stockpirate
One person's "best recollection," no paper trail? Is that all? Too little, too late.

I appreciate everything that the SBVFT have done-- and are still doing with their ad buys in battleground states. They took Kerry down a BIG notch when it was really needed. But, I fear coming out with this now, with so much still subject to question, could well backfire. I can see Kerry now holding a news conference saying it was retaliation by that mean old Nixon.
78 posted on 11/01/2004 4:09:08 PM PST by gypsylea
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To: mondonico

ITS ON RIGHT NOW ON THE RADIO LEVIN I THINK


79 posted on 11/01/2004 4:09:58 PM PST by mammer
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To: stockpirate; Interesting Times; calcowgirl; christie; piasa; mabelkitty; philman_36
I have an idea who may have pulled some strings to help Kerry with the Carter administration:

THE NEW LEFT IN GOVERNMENT: FROM PROTEST TO POLICY-MAKING

The focus of Sam Brown's anti-Vietnam war activities was the Vietnam Moratorium Committee. . .What may be surprising, at least to some observers, is that, according to the same interview, Brown was offered the directorship of ACTION a bare three hours after President Carter's inauguration. As Brown described it, he had first been called by Mr. Carter in Colorado about a week before the inauguration, so that It wasn't an accident that he [Max Cleland, President Carter's choice to head the Veterans Administration] and I were the first people into the White House on inauguration day. After Carter walked down Pennsylvania Avenue, he called us into the Oval Office.

NOMINATION OF SAM W. BROWN, JR. (Senate - May 25, 1994)

Mr. KERRY: [SNIP] I knew Sam Brown back then, and I can tell you that he was as committed to peaceful, nonviolent advocacy and dialog as anybody in the United States of America.

80 posted on 11/01/2004 4:10:04 PM PST by Fedora
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