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Above is an email I sent to a number of members of my church. If you think it will help you convince others, be my guest in copying it. Am I too harsh at the end in saying that I question the judgment of those believers who support Kerry?
1 posted on 11/01/2004 2:20:10 PM PST by calvin sun
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To: calvin sun

Yes, I think that's too judgmental.

(do I get a pass for passing judgment on you?)


2 posted on 11/01/2004 2:29:18 PM PST by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: calvin sun

No mention of Kerry supporting partial-birth abortion or support of gay marriage?


3 posted on 11/01/2004 2:39:27 PM PST by Always Right
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To: calvin sun
Am I too harsh at the end in saying that I question the judgment of those believers who support Kerry?

Nope.

How about this? "Get your head out of your Clymer, if you are even thinking of voting for Kerry."

5 posted on 11/01/2004 2:49:36 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: calvin sun
If a Christian is to be Christlike in all things and Christ's Spirit(the Spirit of God) should move in a Christian to help the Christian know how a Christian should act and believe and then react.

How could a Christian vote for skerry the stem-cell harvesting, baby aborting, lying candidate?

After you answer my Question read this:

Can a Christian be a liberal? Short answer: no. There is no way a Christian can buy into neo-liberal ideology and be faithful to the bigger-than-Dallas teachings of the scripture and expect to continue enjoying his hard-won religious liberties.

For the "Christian" to lean politically to the left means that he must blow off huge chunks of the Bible and replace the scripture with the make-believe notions of postmodernism's malleable "Christ." Only after torturing the scripture can the Christian then fit liberalism into his supposed relationship with God.

For the Christian who believes that unfeigned faith in Christ should correspond with Jesus' high view of scripture, it is… now… impossible to believe in God and be an adherent to postmodern liberalism. The twain no longer meet. Liberalism has been hijacked by bizarre special-interest thugs who spit on the Word of God and believe that the Bible has no place in public life, (except maybe in a museum where people can look at it from time to time).

The Christian who has a bent to the liberal left needs to understand something: while he is skipping around the maypole with his rose-colored glasses on, if it were up to the modern, secularized liberal establishment, he would be more restricted than Bill when Hillary's in town. Yes, if the Christophobic thugs had it their way, Christians would be relegated to a marginalized spiritual ghetto on the sidelines of life.

For the naïve Christian voter who thinks he can toss a ballot in the Nuevo liberal direction, please know that a vote toward the secular left could leave you bereft of sacred liberties. Thanks to the aggressive ludicrous liberal lug nuts' anti-Christian agenda, your vote for a liberal, Christian, is a vote for …

1. Christianity to be scrubbed from government and whatever turf the government owns. Thanks to the liberals, the Ten Commandments have about as much acceptance in our government and their properties as Rush Limbaugh would at Al Franken's family reunion. Yes, the Judeo-Christian principles that formed the rock-solid foundation of this great American Experiment are now aggressively fought against by the lascivious left.

If… if… the secularists continue to stay behind the wheel of this American bus, you can kiss all semblance of Christianity good-bye in this heretofore God-graced government. Saint, you might as well say farewell to our government's recognizing Christmas and adios to Good Friday if you're going to vote the liberal ticket. If the secularists have it their way, Easter will be behind your keister, and you can kiss the Cross good-night as an acceptable public symbol that represents your faith and our nation's recognition of Christ's atoning work.

2. Secularism to be continually mainlined into our public school system. Thanks to rabid vapid secularism, our public schools and universities would rather you be a Rocky Horror super freak than a Christian. If your beliefs run to the bizarre or the banal, or if you want to smoke the same philosophical crack that Caligula, Nero, Castro or Lenin freebased, they'll accommodate you.

Our schools are totally open to anyone and to anything, unless, of course, you're a Christian. And if that's the case, then you're likely to get more sympathy from a badger with minimal sleep than you will from liberal educators who are hard at work making your life hard. A vote for the secular left is a vote for Christianity to continue to be officially vilified on campus and Christians to be ostracized in campus life.

3. Public officials, employees and appointees to be pressured to hide their faith in the closet and suppress their public displays of belief in God lest they be grouped with Hitler, Osama, or Mussolini and then fired. Not only will the liberals aggressively work to prohibit the State from green lighting and recognizing Christianity as a legitimate and positive force in our land, they will also attempt to stifle Christians from influencing the path of government.

4. Public attacks on churches and Christians and attempts to restrict them in the private sector. Consider this, Christian pastor and Christian lay person looking to vote for the ludicrous left: the secular Mafioso's intent is to make your ministerial life difficult, your evangelistic work taxing and your voice minimized. And good luck, pastor and church committee, in trying to buy property and get zoning with the anti-Christian libs at the helm.

5. The continued media endorsement of the same putrid hedonistic stuff that sunk ancient Rome. Yes, with the liberals in place, expect more weird crap in movies and on television. Expect to see more paintings of Christian symbols/ saints smeared with elephant dung. Expect Christianity to be bashed and vilified and Christians made out to be buckled-shoed morons with three teeth and an IQ of 50. Expect the culture to coarsen. Expect your kids to continue to be exposed to things that only rock stars see backstage with groupies. A vote for a liberal is a vote to see Christians continue to receive special ridicule and be flogged more than a piñata during a Cinco de Mayo festival.

My clashpoint is this: Modern liberalism tosses the scripture out on several different levels. How a true believer in the Christ defined by the scripture can buy into what Jesus, the prophets and apostles said and also what these secular thugs say is beyond me.

In addition to liberalism's obvious and odious pro-holocaust-like abortion stance, its anti-biblical view of marriage, its scripture-slamming aggressive secularism, and its feckless view of our nation's defense, liberalism completely clashes with the Christian worldview. Secular liberalism's aggressive desire to eradicate Christians' rights should cause Christians to be concerned.

The Democratic Party's liberalism has degenerated over the last 40-50 years in regard to its view of Christianity and Christian rights. This party, which formerly embraced and protected our nation's great Christian heritage and teachings, no longer does so.

Thus, today the Christian is between a rock and a hard place: he can either be a Christian or a liberal, but he cannot be both.

6 posted on 11/01/2004 2:56:25 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (don't be lazy look it up))
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To: calvin sun

My own thoughts on this subject were posted on another thread, as follows:

The primary "issue" which should have been the focus of the campaign for GWB is his likelihood to appoint Supreme Court justices who will hold to America's Constitutional foundations, including the premise of our Declaration, that ALL are endowed "by their Creator" with the right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." This includes the life which, according to the Holy Scriptures, is known by the Creator while it is yet in the womb.

All other issues pale in comparison to this one. The foundation of our liberty never rested on the counterfeit idea of the female sex's "right to choose" (whatever that is supposed to mean).

If enough voters wish to preserve the ability to have public recognition of a Creator as the source of our rights and liberties and law, then GWB will win.

If that basic concept has been sufficiently erased from the public mind, then Kerry and his hand-picked clone (both trial lawyers) will win, and some future generation will have to undo the damage they will inflict on liberty.

Pray!!!!


7 posted on 11/02/2004 9:08:11 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: calvin sun
You might want to read this thread from yesterday where I posted a daily devotional I received on this very topic.

Basically, if we have the mind of Christ, which the Apostle Paul says we have, and if we are using it, we must ask the question: WWJD? Or WWJVF? (Who would Jesus vote for).

8 posted on 11/02/2004 9:20:27 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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