Please, no post-election heroic measures

San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 10/30/2004 | Joseph Perkins

[Ed_in_NJ]

Sure hope the pubbies are watching out for rat tricks in Hawaii -- that being the last place polls are open.

[dawn53]

It's a little late, since Kerry's team has already started with the lawsuits and convinced some Dems they'll be disenfranchised.

But, the author is right...it is needed to restore credibility to the election process. But the dems sued each other during the primaries this year, so I don't hold out much hope.

Hard to believe that we'd pine for the days of Nixon in order to see integrity and love of country over self-interest after an election.

[Ladysmith]

Exactly!!

As the Texas Judge would say, they can both whistle Dixie up a tree!!

[Salamander]

"The Republican the Dems despised the most, Nixon, was urged by many to contest the 1960 election because of obvious voter fraud. But Nixon refused, saying that it would take months and tear the country apart, leaving us weak to our enemies in the meantime."

I still believe that was part of why 9/11 happened.
Hit us while we're divided in an attempt to conquer.

I will ALWAYS loathe Algore for what he did to this country.
He invented the beginning of the end.

[TalBlack]

The result is that a portion of the populace refuses to this day to accept the outcome of the 2000 election.

Another result is that if Bush loses and there is evidence of massive fraud on the part of the Dem's then I will not accept the outcome.

Bush, if history guides, will do the magnanimous thing...but I won't.

[foxfield]

Riots are already in the works. See www.beyondvoting.org for details.

If Bush wins, they'll protest the election. If Kerry wins, they'll hold his feet to the anti-war fire.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Exactly, and ohio is ground Zero for 2004....Kerry has to win it for a chance to take control.... Bush needs to deny Kerry and Osama Victory.....

See this:

Shadow War
by Richard Miniter
Regnery Publishing, Inc.; ISBN: 0895260522
Hardcover - 256 pages (October 2004)

The three vital, unanswered questions of the War on Terror are:

• Where is Osama bin Laden?
• Why hasn’t there been another terrorist strike inside America since September 11, 2001?
• Is President Bush winning the war?

Shadow War answers these questions. It unfolds during the first nine hundred eleven days of President Bush’s War on Terror, from the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York and Washington, D.C., to the March 11, 2004 bomb blasts in Madrid, Spain. It is a story of sleeper cells and patient plots, phone intercepts and covert operations, boldly triumphant captures and heartbreakingly close escapes.

There have been many clandestine victories against al Qaeda. More than 3,000 al Qaeda operatives have been seized or slain in 102 countries since September 11, 2001.

In Shadow War, Richard Miniter, author of the New York Times bestseller Losing bin Laden, files from the front lines in Baghdad, Bangkok, Singapore, Manila, Hong Kong, Khartoum, Cairo, Paris, London, Frankfurt, Hamburg, New York, and Washington, D.C.—uncovering the triumphs and tragedies the media establishment refuses to report.

Inside Shadow War, you’ll discover:

• New intelligence about Osama bin Laden’s secret refuge. The location will surprise you—and has shocking implications for national security.
• The Bush administration’s secret plan to hit al Qaeda before September 11, 2001.
• A never before reported plot to assassinate President Bush in 2002—and the embarrassing intelligence failure it revealed.
• How the 2000 election fiasco left our nation open to terror attacks.
• How America captured the “al Qaeda admiral” and stopped his fifteen-ship fleet from being used as floating bombs.
• Why Iran is financing attacks against American and allied forces in Afghanistan and Iraq
• Why al Qaeda has been sending operatives to scuba school to learn how to dive—but not to resurface

The major media has missed some of the biggest developments in the War on Terror—we get only headlines, sound bites, and snapshots. No record of victories, defeats, or draws. No big picture. Shadow War brings the big picture to life: The unreported story of the War on Terror is that we can win it, and that victories are being won every single day.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Late last night I was reading a thread about a leftist web site that had plans for "peaceful" gatherings on November 3rd. I can NOT seem to find it today...did any of you see it??

[Sivad]

"If the other side would do the right thing, then the author
of this piece would have a point."

Amen.
The other side does the "left" thing at every opportunity.
In '98 the right thing would have been to prevail upon
Clinton to resign as president. In 2000 the right thing
would have been to accept the vote count and forgo the
legal shenanigans.

At least since the election of 1960 the Democrats have
been cheating. It seems the author of this piece would
have us just accept tainted results in order to preserve
some kind of a fictitious national unity all because the
left thinks that to rule is their God given right.
Hogwash.

[Salamander]

If, by some dark, diabolic miracle, kerry "wins" this by lawsuits, I suggest we borrow the Dem's "resident Bush" crack and refer to him as Litigant Kerry for four years.

[Salamander]

He gets in bed with Mama T-Rex for money.
If that's not self-sacrifice, I don't know what is.

[Ladysmith]

Check out the link at #27, Gram

[GregoryFul]

Come on! Since we are talking about which gang is going to be able to best loot the treasury for the next four years... Ya think the country has any standing in this fight?

[Vigilanteman]

Actually, Ford lost Ohio by around 11,000 votes and Hawaii by 7,000.

Had these two states flipped, it would have been a 269-268-1 electoral tie and gone to the House of Representatives.

Of course, in this case, the Washington Elector who voted for Reagan would have probably voted for Ford, giving him a 270-268 win.

[Ladysmith]

Is that the one you saw?? This is the first one I've seen.

[minmospop]

Totally agree. However, if there was a national standardized method for voting in national elections (i.e. must show federal authorized proof of who you are, registration requiring proof of who you are, where you live, etc.) then this might be workable. However, with the rats showing their true colors and litigating their way to the office, I think this is a bad idea.

[Mad Mammoth]

John Kerry is not capable of sitting down with President Bush UNLESS it is in the position of the victor of next Tuesday's election.

Kerry is the final harvest of the treasonous fruit that has tainted and poisoned what was once a proud political party, a party that is now no different than any other subversive organization, damned and determined to attain and KEEP political power no matter the cost.

One of my favorite sayings (I can't take credit for it) is that "today's Democratic Party IS 'The Enemy Within'" and that may sound shrill and extremely partisan, but the fact is: it is the truth.

Democrats have placed their loyalties and allegiances NOT to the American people, but have sold their collective souls to special interest groups both domestic AND foreign, they worship at the altar of the U.N., they believe that foreign judicial courts should have precedence over the U.S. justice system. They are eager to blame America first for whatever trouble there is in the world, and they are the LAST to give America credit and honor for when our Nation steps forward in the cause of freedom and liberty.

Zell Miller of Georgia understands all too well what has happened to his political party, as do other Democrats (current and former) who see clearly that their Party puts the acquisition of raw political power first, and the best interests of America last.

Prior to 2000, elections were held and accepted as being fair and honest, even if there were irregularities or even blatant instances of fraud. Now, post-2000 and post-9/11, the Democrats are no different than a petulant, spoiled little brat who is demanding, screaming and throwing a fit in order to get their hands on a beloved toy, and if they are not given what they want?

They'll break the damned toy so NOBODY else can have it.

THAT is exactly what the Democratic Party has planned for our Country, if they cannot gather the maximum political power available to themselves, they will destroy our system in order to make way for an authoritarian method, imposed upon us by (who else?) some international body like the United Nations.

Our Republic is danger from Islamofascist terrorism abroad, and from fascist ideologues calling themselves 'Democrats' from within.

We ignore them at our own peril, and that is why President Bush MUST be re-elected. America's future depends on it.

[xJones]

I will ALWAYS loathe Algore for what he did to this country.
He invented the beginning of the end.>

But Al Gore was a professional politician. He even blurted out during the 36 days of 2000 that George W. Bush at least had something to go back to (business), but that he had never done anything else. And look what fat Al is doing now.

Clinton had a brief stint as a college professor, but other than that his life was being a professional politician. And Kerry, except for a short career as a lawyer, has never been anything else but a professional politician.

The Dems have promoting professional political sharks with law degrees, and they'll fight desperately to win because.... that's their whole lives.

[orangelobster]

Since the DNC has officially declared that they intend to steal as many votes as they can through frivolous lawsuits, the RNC has no choice but to meet all evidence of fraud with merciless legal challenges. Yes, it shouldn't be that way, but the DNC is out of control this election, so pretended the reality is otherwise would be foolish. This article should be ignored. The choice of a lawyer, specializing in frivilous lawsuits makes clear where the DNC stands.