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To: Minuteman23
"Ha! Just how many of my personal friends do you know anyway? (Quite a few, it seems)"

HA!!
I *think* everyone knows *our* friends.
Seems that kind are all the same, same character profile, same shtick, same extended hand.

"It amazes me how many people look at their vote as a 'family tradition.'"

Amazing yes, but not a mystery either.
After all, *Mum & Dad* would never do anything to hurt [me], right?
It's almost become a *gene* that's passed down from generation to generation and only under -- what seems like -- the most extraordinary circumstances is that chain broken.
I can tell you in my case when it was, it was akin to what fundamentalists call "rebirth".
Most intoxicating, freedom, when one realizes they're really never had it.

"Not that I have anything against unions, mind you, but many of them are from union families with long histories of voting the Democratic party line. They would be struck by lightning if they pulled a lever next to an R name."

That's right.
My father was a big union guy, just ask joanie.
BUT, the union he ran & what unions et al have become in the past 30 years seem to in all but a few instances -- like Teamsters, for example -- changed, radically.

I see union guys riding all around the town I live (a BIG union town) with "I'm Pro-Union" stickers on the back of their [mostly] pickup trucks, and the the background of these stickers is always an American flag.
Go figure.
I believe there's only one word to describe such a phenomenon & that'd be Orwellian.

"The more I'm listening to Fox News today, the more I'm thinking Joanie's #1 outcome is what we're going to be facing. We might not know who are next president is for weeks. Votes cast before the polls opened, people being turned away because someone else already voted in their name, harassment at the polls, slashed tires on Repubican vans that were supposed to transport voters, etc. The thugs are out in force."

The thugs are *always* in force.

Be careful of Fox, will you?
They're *not* a friend of conservatives & one empowers the absolute worst segement of our society with our very psyche by believing a *thing* that comes outa their lying mouths.
It's in their best interest to keep everyone in a state of terror & depression, hell's bells even the gd'd weather channel's become nothing more than peddlers of fear.
It's sickening.

Fox, like all the rest, are friends to one thing & one thing only.

...themselves.

180 posted on 11/02/2004 10:15:16 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: Landru

You're so smart! :-)


181 posted on 11/02/2004 10:17:19 AM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: Landru; FBD; ForGod'sSake; joanie-f
Be careful of Fox, will you? They're *not* a friend of conservatives.

I agree. I just watch them because they’re on 24/7 and are less likely to cause indigestion than any other news channel.

Back on the “useful idot” theme---I read a great article by Kate O’Beirne just yesterday. She has their number:

Despite the thousands of campaign ads and the oceans of spilled media ink over the past year, the ignorant voter outnumbers voters of all stripes. That the public’s knowledge of current affairs is in a sorry state is the only safe call we can make in this year’s race.

She goes on to say that only 5% of voters pay close attention to policy and politics. About 70% of Americans don’t know that Congress recently passed a Medicare prescription drug plan---the largest federal entitlement expansion in decades. 65% don’t know that a ban on partial birth abortion has been enacted, etc, etc.

Let’s just hope the majority she talks about in these cases are also to lazy to go to the polls today, although news reports aren’t showing that.

184 posted on 11/02/2004 10:50:25 AM PST by Minuteman23
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