Posted on 10/28/2004 7:29:47 PM PDT by tomahawk
On Great (Fox News), Bill Gertz said he is coming out with an article that U.S. intelligence stands behind assessment that the Russian GRU moved weapons out of Iraq in the time leading up to the war.
He also said it would take weeks for the story to develop.
Russia was just coming in to get a little repo work done before the Americans got there....
Saddam was looking to ditch the stuff before the Americans found it anyway.
And how hard would it be to make up a phony UN IAEA seal and substitute a lock on those bunkers after they got cleaned out? We really only have the word of the inspectors that they did a full and reasonably substantiated inspection anyway - considering the degree to which the UN authorities were in the pockets of the Oil-for-Food scandal already, it is no large stretch of the imagination to suggest a little collusion was going on.
"maybe Kerry aspires to be a double agent like in Kgb".
He has CIA experience from Cambodia!
technically, it is an hypothesis, but seems plausible to me. minds greater than mine have probably been working many things behind the scenes, and minds greater than mine will be needed to put the pieces of the puzzle together.
i recall the bush administration saying in '01 that the war on terror would in part use tactics of misinformation to confuse the enemy.
An article was up last night .
Your assessment may not be far off. The Russians operate at another level than many people think, especailly when it comes to their intelligence and self interest
DRUDGE: Russia tied to Iraq´s missing arms; Pentagon: Weaponry relocated before war ^
"GERTZ // THURSDAY // WASH TIMES: Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March 2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned. John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said in an interview that he believes the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, “almost certainly” removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa facility, south of Baghdad."
Dreamworld
To carry the speculation further, maybe Putin is really on our side, he is just our mole in the Axis of Weasels.
I think Putin is smart and pragmatic, he knows that an alliance with us is a winning solution for Russia, while he won't get anything from France.
But also remember, that Clinton was not able to form any relationship with Putin, mostly, because Putin knew that Clinton was a flake and couldn't be counted on to keep his word.
Putin, naturally is not going to do everything at once, but I think, that when he and Bush agreed to scrap the ABM treaty, that was a major concession from his viewpoint.
Syria needs to do a "LIBYA ACTION"
Why was this information not released much earlier than this? The only logical answers to why WMDs stockpiles were not found is that they were buried in the middle of nowhere, transported to Syria, or a combination of both.
Hmmm...Bush is not the only one within our government that has actual knowledge and proof of those events. If one of those with inside knowledge happens also to be opposed to Bush's foreign policy, especially the GWOT, or else someone who still carries around a grudge for the GRU (old Soviet military intelligence), then the facts will leak. I can think of at least two elements within the CIA that fit that description.
Where else would Getz be getting his intel if not from intel? (Rhetorical question.)
--Boot Hill
oh sure, the leaks to Gertz may well be true. but politically, since neither side is going to substantiate this (and the MSM isn't going to touch Gertz's story), we aren't going to be able to rebut this story down before the election.
Some links that thicken the plot...
Ex-spy fingers Russians on WMD (1993)
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030820-081256-6822r.htm
The Plot to Hijack the CIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1252938/posts
Russia’s aims in the middle east
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1260794/posts
I think Gertz gets BSed on a routine basis.
But, his articles are uniformly what people here want to hear. Eventually I think his star will fade once it sinks in basically none of his exciting stories pan out or get corroborated.
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