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Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control
ABC News ^ | October 29, 2004 | Martha Raddatz

Posted on 10/28/2004 4:36:02 PM PDT by Cavalier79

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To: been_lurking
I'd be surprised if this story could even change three votes nationwide. It's too technical, nuanced, and boring. No sex, no movie stars, and no Oprah. It's a dud.

Yep. Same is true of the Halliburton crap in terms of hurting Bush, and the now (completely forgotten and irrelevant, as I predicted) Wash Times UN Security Council/Kerry story in terms of hurting Kerry.

Nothing will affect undecideds from here on in than a very simple personal scandal story. It has to be photos of either Bush or Kerry gleefully strangling live kittens or somthing.

101 posted on 10/28/2004 5:14:54 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Virginia

So?


102 posted on 10/28/2004 5:15:15 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: cyncooper

It is my understanding that they went back and were there for like two weeks...used it as a temporary base..


103 posted on 10/28/2004 5:17:03 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: claudiustg
I thought they went through on the 10th

You thought right.

104 posted on 10/28/2004 5:17:26 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Virginia

An old DUI story has impact because there is very visceral emotional reaction that has been hammered into many of us since we were children: drunks are bad. It's not always fair nor rational but that's what the entire point was...this story takes intense thought even to get to a slight emotional level of annoyance...and that won't sway anyone or in the case of 2000 keep anyone at home...


105 posted on 10/28/2004 5:17:59 PM PDT by shawngf
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To: cyncooper

"My guess is these images were taken at another site which makes the story irrelevant."

I was responding to this comment. One of the boxes says "Al Qaqaa". Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying.


106 posted on 10/28/2004 5:18:06 PM PDT by Virginia
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To: All

Big picture, folks, big picture:

Bombs, Iraq, terrorists, soldiers - everything about this "story" says ONE THING THAT PEOPLE WILL REALLY HEAR:

WE ARE STILL AT WAR.


Those five words = votes for Bush.

Everyone relax.


107 posted on 10/28/2004 5:18:43 PM PDT by RWRbestbyfar
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To: Cavalier79

The President should have completely ignored this story. You cannot secure every site that needs secured and if this pans out, obviously better precautions should have been taken, but that is not on the President.

In typical Democratic fashion, Kerry thinks the President should be choosing sites to bomb from the Oval office. Remind you of any other great Democratic wartime leader?


108 posted on 10/28/2004 5:18:52 PM PDT by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: jmc1969
"We have yet to pull one October Surprise on Kerry"

1. We have class...they don't.
2. I think the public is sick of last minuet bogus stories.

If some pro group has a rock solid bombshell, I might say OK, but what the Dimwits are doing is more like suicide.
109 posted on 10/28/2004 5:19:59 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Cavalier79

Ms. Raddatz is married to Tom Gjelten, NPR's diplomatic correspondent.


110 posted on 10/28/2004 5:20:33 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: rocksblues
I viewed the video and none of the "explosives" were marked with IAEA seals. And everybody that is not a Rat operative knows that there were thousands of tons of explosives at AL Qaa Qaa but Bush/Our Military is only being accused of letting the IAEA sealed items to disappear!

Exactly. The story has always been that our troops found conventional weapons and some explosives, but not the sealed HMX and RDX they had been apprised of (and Kerry has been lying saying nobody told them to look for).

However, I have a real problem with ABC asserting the 101st was at Al Qaqaa on April 18. The timeline by all other sources, including the Pentagon, is they were there April 10. This is either another site or ABC gave the wrong date (though they say "April 18, nine days after Baghdad fell" indicating it is not a typo).

111 posted on 10/28/2004 5:20:38 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: cookcounty

I said that somewhere else too.

These are not IAEA seals! These are transportation markings. It's missing the UN number to tell you what it is. Key information is missing from the ABC report!


112 posted on 10/28/2004 5:22:47 PM PDT by EBH
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To: cyncooper

I think the original statement concerning the 101st was 2 days before Baghdad fell!


113 posted on 10/28/2004 5:23:35 PM PDT by rocksblues (Sorry John, we remember and will never forget your treason!)
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To: cookcounty
1.1 D simply means "mass explosion hazard," not any particular substance.

Right. The fiberboard containers have have no stenciled, marking that I can see like nomeclature, stock number, quantity, lot number, DODIC, ect...

114 posted on 10/28/2004 5:23:36 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: MEG33

See the link posted here for a timeline:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1260694/posts?page=87#87

April 18 is not on it.

Further, don't think I'm relying on the Boston Globe's timeline. I just grabbed the nearest Google find. I heard Brett Baier give the detailed timeline yesterday verified by the Pentagon.

This ABC video comes from a different facility making the story completely unrelated to the charges being leveled by Kamp Kerry (aided by the NYT, etc)


115 posted on 10/28/2004 5:23:46 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: syriacus
The FedEx hazmat guy (FedEx does more hazmat shipments than any other company in the world) says:

The IATA UN classification number for HMX in 0226. This should appear as UN 0226 in bold black lettering enclosed by a black rectangle, and must be on two opposing sides of the container.

The"23----" that appears on the barrel near the IATA sticker may be a sloppy rendition of a UN number improperly executed. If so, this is not HMX.

116 posted on 10/28/2004 5:24:36 PM PDT by cookcounty (WWW-Will John Kerry seek a 4th Purple Heart for fingers burnt in the Battle of Al-Qa Qaa?)
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To: rocksblues

Never was there an original statement like that.

You're thinking of the 3rd ID that was in fact at the complex on April 3.


117 posted on 10/28/2004 5:25:09 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: TheBattman
and that's a really BIG IF this story pans out as this would indicate

If I may modestly point out, it took me all of 2 seconds to see the problem with the date in the ABC story compared with the timeline of the movements of the 101st as regards Al Qaqaa.

118 posted on 10/28/2004 5:26:16 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: OneTimeLurker

I don't think this ABC video was taken at the site in question (although they say it was).


119 posted on 10/28/2004 5:28:58 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: cyncooper

"Further, don't think I'm relying on the Boston Globe's timeline. I just grabbed the nearest Google find. I heard Brett Baier give the detailed timeline yesterday verified by the Pentagon.

This ABC video comes from a different facility making the story completely unrelated to the charges being leveled by Kamp Kerry (aided by the NYT, etc)"

Thanks for the info.


120 posted on 10/28/2004 5:30:34 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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