[MN] 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS video may be linked to missing explosives in Iraq

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[oolatec]

Hmmm, I seem to be missing where in the video the labels 1.1D UN 0042 are visible... can someone post a screenshot?

[LibertyJihad]

The tape raises many questions such as:

1) Where were the rest of the explosives when our troops arrived? The tape shows some barrells, but is is clearly not 380 tons.

2) Where were the U.N. seals that were supposed to be on the storage facility entries? The soldiers simply cut locks of the doors to gain access, and they did not have to break any UN seals. This would indicate that the facilities were entered prior to the US's arrival and from appearances most of the 380 tons was gone before we arrived.

3) The cylindricl objects shown in the video are primers of some sort. Are they included in the UN's "380 tons" estimate? What about the primer cord that was shown?

4) If the 380 tons of explosive are such a huge danger to national security, why is it that John Kerry felt save with Saddam Hussein maintaining control of 600,000 tons of these same types of explosives? The 380 tons represents 1% of the amount of explosives the U.S. has captured and/or destroyed since invading Iraq. What was John Kerry's specific plan to secure these explosives that, by his own estimation, are extremely dangerous.

5) If, as John Kerry has said, these explosives could be used as a detonating device for a nuclear weapon and if they are so terribly dangerous, why did the UN insist on letting Saddam keep the explosives? I thought the UN security council resolutions demanded that any WMD components had to be destroyed. Were the UN inspections so ineffective that they allowed Saddam to maintain control of these "nuclear detonating devices"?

[Darksheare]

Welcome to FR.

I'd say you're a troll based off this statement.
"Really, you guys are too much! "

No, it's fun watching Libs make themselves look like little children.

[penelopesire]

Please go to the video and take a look at the map they show at the beginning. They put this square on it, then they draw a line from where they were south of the square, then they pinpoint where they were and draw this line north to the square:saying they DROVE 5 MILES NORTH TO THE GENERAL AREA(where they believe they might have been at the site..) This does not look like a 1/2"=5 MILES MAP TO ME. It just looks like a desperate local news channel teasing an audience for ratings..nothing more. Yet the DU trolls are posting this all over the net today in their desperation. It seems an easy thing to dismantle, if we knew for certain the scale of the map.????

[finnman69]

Dunno, not sure how to read the map for scale

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/images/baghdad1.gif

[Darksheare]

That map looks to be the military grid reference system format.
If there are any 13E types anywhere in thread, since they look at 'charts and darts' often, they may be able to ID the scale by looking at it.

[penelopesire]

Thanks Darksheare. Now if we can just get a military man here to check it out for us. I wouldn't even pay much attention to this, if it wasn't for the way it is being spread all over the internet today by the lying scumbags over at the DU(god forgive me,but I hate those people)! How far is it from Karbala to Al Hillah? If we knew that, we could make an educated guess. The problem I had while trying to look into this, was that most of the internet maps have been reduced so many times,it makes it almost impossible to figure out the scale.

[jim35]

Man, that's the third TROLL I've seen just this afternoon! The ZOT gun is overheating!

[Darksheare]

I was 13B, cannon crewmember, map reading wasn't stressed too highly for us.
If the scale is at all close to my ancient Fort Drum map, then the scale is 1:50,000 with one inch being one statute mile.

However, different scales areavailable.
One being 1:20,000, another being 1:100,000.

[Darksheare]

Yeah, there's been some I haven't gotten to.
*ugh*

[penelopesire]

Thank You for your service to our country, Darksheare! I love the military! Well, this probably isn't that important in the grand scheme of things and if it was 1 inch = 1 mile,then my point looks pretty foolish already. (embarrased smile)I wish this site had smiles.(LOL) Nice to meet you, BTW.

[tazannie]

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S3741.html?cat=1

du is saying this is their smoking gun. what do you all think?

didn't the IAEA docs say that there was another entrance to the bunkers that could be used to remove weapons? (if that is so, why on earth wouldn't they seal that door too?)

[MP5SD]

I Did a little home work.

The ONLY 1.1D Blasting Agent in a dry form that has a subsidiary Hazard of 6. (Toxic Inhalation Hazard) is; Dinitrophenol UN0076

Amazingly it has the same physical characteristics as those shown in the picture.

There is one other 1.1D/6 but that is a liquid and is also in the nitro family - Nitroglycerine.

Dinitrophenol is a blasting agent commonly used in "melt and pour" operations when manufacturing explosives.

BOTTOM LINE: IMHO This ain't "the stuff"

[FreedomCalls]

ping.

[Petronski]

(if that is so, why on earth wouldn't they seal that door too?)

I've seen the video, I posted the first thread on it this morning.

If there was a ventilation shaft, it should have been sealed with hardened steel bars. Perhaps the IAEA wasn't equipped or prepared for this eventuality.

[unspun]

Thanks for your analysis. Also the previous examiners!

(But all we have to do of course, is ask Scott Ritter about this. Anyone have his number? Has he found asylum in Bangkok?)

[freeperfromnj]

The MSM wants to rattle us.

I was switching around the dial tonight just to see how the MSM was going to cover this in light of new information that's been trickling out over the past 24 hours. I saw nothing but angry and desperate spin coming across the airwaves tonight.

[Darksheare]

Thanks.
I was 'only'a 13B, and a 'national Guard' type at that.
(For some people, that makes a world of difference.)

As far as the map, you may still have a point.
Depends on which scale the map itself is.
I think Baghdad is slightly over 2 miles wide.
And on the map, it doesn't seem to be more than an inch and half wide.

[unspun]

CNN's Aaron Brown just interviewed chief inspector David Kay, while observing the chained door and seal, also the containers and material. Kay claimed it was an officially sealed bunker and the materials were HMX a/o RDX, which is stored as powder, but Key pointed out that this was only one bunker. Further, he chided the military for apparently not properly identifying the materials and controlling the security for this bunker.

It appears, putting this together with the satellite photos, that the Iraqi's were busy transporting these materials out of Al Qa Qaa, but were not quite through with the job, before cutting out ahead of our advancement.

[WOSG]

The NYTimes will rush back into the story if it hurts Bush.

"President Bush has I believe has a 15 point lead over Kerry when it comes to security, terrorism, Iraq handling, etc. To base a hit piece the last week of the election on missing explosives is not too smart."