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Bodies of 49 Iraqi soldiers found (Members of the new Iraqi army)
BBC ^ | October 24, 2004 | BBC

Posted on 10/24/2004 2:08:34 AM PDT by Former Military Chick

The bodies of 49 Iraqi army soldiers have been found near the town of Baquba, north-east of Baghdad, according to police. The bodies were laid out in four rows with about 12 bodies in each row, Gen Walid Al-Assawi, commander of the Diyala provincial police, has said.

"After inspection, we found out that they were shot after being ordered to lie down on the earth," he said.

Thirty-seven bodies were found on Saturday, and another 12 on Sunday.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqiarmy; napalminthemorning; wot
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To: Types_with_Fist
How many "insurgents" does it take to capture, control and systematically execute 49 armed men?

Reports are they were unarmed. Next question: why?

61 posted on 10/24/2004 9:38:48 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Let US commanders run the war on terror in iraq,)
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To: Amelia

"Islamists relate our invasion to the Mongol invasion in the 1200s, and are attempting to apply the same strategies that led to the eventual victory over the invaders then."

Oh right... Most of the Islamists are very well read and know what was done back then... NOT.

Gee, aren't all resistances to occupation done the same way?


62 posted on 10/24/2004 9:39:32 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Lijahsbubbe
What amazes me is the courage they display just by standing in line to sign up, much less being in the Iraqi force.

There are few other jobs. And they are dangerous too.

63 posted on 10/24/2004 9:41:25 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Let US commanders run the war on terror in iraq,)
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To: TheDon
They are only giving the Iraqis more reason to hate them and turn them in.

Trouble is, most of the hated is transferred toward America and the American military. The terrorists are living among the "good" Iraqis.

64 posted on 10/24/2004 9:44:22 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Let US commanders run the war on terror in iraq,)
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To: beyond the sea

shot in the back of the head, I heard.
Very, very bad.""

How far from the Iran border? They came upon something they shouldn't have? Iran crossing the border? Why would 49 soldiers all be together unless they were sent out to check on something? Where were their vehicles?


65 posted on 10/24/2004 9:46:41 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

I'm serious... would bet real money that the victims' nationality will be barely mentioned.""

This AM on KCRA, Sacramento, the woman gave the teaser as "50 dead soldiers in Iraq". No mention until the story that they were IRAQ soldiers.


66 posted on 10/24/2004 9:48:00 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: ridesthemiles
Where were their vehicles?

I read they were in in 3 small buses.

67 posted on 10/24/2004 9:48:31 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Let US commanders run the war on terror in iraq,)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
I'm afraid you miss my point.

Iraq, as much of the Middle East is a makeup of tribes...that for generations, er, for CENTURIES...have been taught that other people not from your tribe are either trying to get you or holding you down already.

These seeds of hate are planted from the time they are toddlers. The Palestinian-Jewish "problem" is the epitome of the example.

Until we start killing them ( the current insurgency) by the thousands, you're going to keep reading about " 49 Iraqi soldiers on leave are summarily executed on the roadside....", etc..

68 posted on 10/24/2004 9:53:01 AM PDT by DCPatriot (I don't do politically correct very well either.)
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To: WOSG
" Uh, No... he has great respect and support BECAUSE he is standing up to the terrorists... "

Uh, Probably, but two compromisers with “militants” reportedly have gathered greater respect and support of the Iraqi population.

I’ve been a proponent of giving the military greater authority in fighting the war since March, while you’ve been claiming they had it ( now proven otherwise) and cheerleading every political nuance we introduced.

All I’m saying is that now it’s too late for a brutal attack with thousands of dead Iraqi “civilians”. That doesn’t appear what’s planned anyway, but it’s what Jim Noble was suggesting incase you didn’t notice.

We have to be very smart and precise in our assault on Fallujah this close to the election, or the Iraqi people will be dominated by spin up to election day that’s to the disadvantage of moderates. In April we had time to counter it, not today.

69 posted on 10/24/2004 9:54:52 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: lepton
No. They were tried under military tribunal...and then executed.

A distinction without a difference, calculated to appeal to the young and the ignorant; to mislead and misinform.

The whole process, in any event, usually took less than 12 hours. A reality about which you are either ignorant, or wish to conceal.

70 posted on 10/24/2004 9:57:27 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: RightWhale
Perhaps not Iraqis at all but Iranian regulars.

You may be on to something big.

71 posted on 10/24/2004 9:57:41 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Let US commanders run the war on terror in iraq,)
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To: Jim Noble
It is a major (domestic political) strategic error to fail to bring the hammer down in hopes of winning a few sucker moms.

It's a major error to think that the way the war is being fought is based on the hopes of winning a few "sucker moms".

72 posted on 10/24/2004 9:59:37 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: DCPatriot
Until we start killing them ( the current insurgency) by the thousands...

Absolutely correct. Ruthlessness will never be defeated by anything less than ruthlessness.

73 posted on 10/24/2004 9:59:38 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Let US commanders run the war on terror in iraq,)
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To: Former Military Chick

No one seems to ask the essential question: WHY WERE THESE SOLDIERS UNARMED? It is not like they are not in a combat zone, unlike us Yanks in England, prior to D-Day, for example..........


74 posted on 10/24/2004 10:03:38 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Amelia
but currently makes me wonder if the "kill them all!" strategy (which would've been my response before I started the book) is the correct one or not.

It worked against Carthage.

For the last 2300 years... not a peep out of them.

75 posted on 10/24/2004 10:04:10 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: DCPatriot
Saddam Hussein fills trenches with hundreds of thousands of bodies....his way of pacification. The result? Two actually. In Iraq, during Hussein's rule, an Iraqi could leave his doors unlocked. Crime was a...excuse me, a nuisance. The other was that said pacification was called genocide and acts against humanity.

There was no genocide in Saddam's Iraq? Just Saddam putting criminals in trenches? Sure...

BTW, how could the Iraqi's leave their doors open during the Saddam days, when there was "hundreds of thousands" of criminals who had to be killed and put in trenches?

76 posted on 10/24/2004 10:07:41 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign; elfman2
It's a major error to think that the way the war is being fought is based on the hopes of winning a few "sucker moms"

Well, it may be an error, but at least it's the optimisic POV.

The pessimistic POV is that the administration does not know anything about war, about the enemy, nor about the sociology and history of Arabia.

I prefer to hope it is a (misguided) tactic.

77 posted on 10/24/2004 10:09:01 AM PDT by Jim Noble (FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)
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To: farmfriend

I'm sure the new Iraqi Guard is full insurgent agents.(Do ya' think?)


78 posted on 10/24/2004 10:10:53 AM PDT by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: oyez

The Iraqi Guard has some bad guys on the inside they need to weed out. Someone is feeding intel to the enemy.


79 posted on 10/24/2004 10:12:50 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: oyez

I'm sure but they can be weeded out if the rest have a mind to do it. Not sure they do.


80 posted on 10/24/2004 10:12:54 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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