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To: laredo44

As for this whole business about the pay... you know... there are days when I'm cooped up with 30 feral pre-teens who act like chimpanzees, and I have no authority to even grab them by the arm and say "Knock it off!" And I think even earning $200,000 a year wouldn't be enough to make this kind of stress worthwhile for long.


90 posted on 10/24/2004 8:51:59 AM PDT by wizardoz (Votez pour Jean Kerry!!)
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To: wizardoz
there are days when I'm cooped up with 30 feral pre-teens

I resemble that remark. Something has to be done. We MUST return to a system of personal responsibility for one's actions. The teacher is obviously emotionally/mentally disturbed. The parent is more than likely an equal case. BOTH should be severely punished. In my new society, both would be caned. Any repeat offender would be executed. Problem solved.

98 posted on 10/24/2004 10:28:19 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: wizardoz
And I think even earning $200,000 a year wouldn't be enough to make this kind of stress worthwhile for long.

Thanks to the NEA proper learning environments are no longer permitted. Given a classroom where student outbursts and disrespect were the rare exception they used to be, stress levels would return to very tolerable levels.

103 posted on 10/24/2004 12:49:41 PM PDT by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: wizardoz
as a nurse, I am locked up for all practical purposes with people dying of Aids, people confined in isolation with TB, demented people that actually will attack you, people bleeding all over the place, diabetics going into shock that demands immediate attention...and then there are the families expectations to meet, let alone the doctor's expectations, the patients, the radiologists' and every other dept in the hosp...

for this, I get to work every other weekend, many holidays, and have to put in for vacation several months in advance to even get a shot at what I want since the lack of nurses makes someone not being there a major problem...

I work in a middle size private nonprofit hospital and like most hospitals, there is no pension, no retirement health benfits....nada, nilch...

so please spare me the sad story....most people couldn't take the pressure I take at my work to keep people alive, let alone happy, yet you don't see nurses generally complaining....

we see what we do as more of a vocation, not a paycheck, like some...

oh, and the final indignity?.....no flu shots available for nursing staff.....

I'll bet teachers get their shots quicker than people actually working with the sick.....

119 posted on 10/24/2004 11:25:00 PM PDT by cherry
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