Generation X

www.geocities.com/chrysler813/Generations.html ^ | October 23, 2004 | Curtis Ryan Baginski

[farmfriend]

By 1965 or so most kids were born to "silent generation" parents.

Sounds like you read the book Generations. I read the The Fourth Turning

written by the same authors. Great book.

[k2blader]

Let's compare the voting stats on non-minority Boomers, GenX and GenY today shall we?

Let's.

What are the stats?

[qam1]

The reason why 1965 is chosen is because that's when the Baby Boom ended and the birth rates collasped

1975 is often given for the year Gen-X ends because 1976 birth rates started to increase again but 1982 is usually given for the start of Gen-Y because kids born in that year would have became adults/graduated high school in 2000 (hence their other nickname Millennials)

BTW, See my homepage I have the names of the Generations going back to Columbus

[wardaddy]

I don't make up shite. I lived it.

The hippies and yippies were a small vocal minority and the only liberal I can recall that white boomers supported was Carter....mostly in response to Nixon's alleged excesses.

Vast government spending and entitlements precedes the Boomers by at least a generation....arguably two generations so I'm tired of being blamed for it by you whiners.

Where I live here in Nashville and having attended a number of counter protests against the ANSWER-MoveOn.org types I can tell you from observing that the average age is around 30.

Further, in the past few weeks I have been on the campuses of Ole Miss, Vandy, W&L, VMI and Virginia Commonwealth....all sporting a disproportionate number of Kerry supporters..except VMI of course

Here in Nashville I observe the largest clusters of Kerry supporters are amongst the 20-35 crowd in the environs where they live as I described earlier.

Your tables you constructed overlap. Anyone 36 or older in 2000 is a Boomer.

The Boomer years have always been 1945-1965 from what I've gleaned. The Gen X is 1965-1985 and Y is 1985 onwards...quite young.

The latest poll I saw was Kerry with a slight lead amongst the 18-29 crowd....and it is painfully obvious that the more public figures in that age group are overwhelmingly liberals.

I am a white southern male aged 46. I have been conservative since 1980. I was a bit of an anti-establishment libertarian in my youth. Floyd, Skynyrd, LZ, weed, Dead...you get the drift...but I was all South and hunted and loved guns.

My particular demographic bears absolutely no responsibility for the current bullshite....none...we vote almost 80% right.

I have no doubt whatsoever that much of the under 35 crowd has little or no concept of culture war....even on this forum.....and that is what all this strife is really all about. It ain't taxes or the war (a whipping boy) or how W won in 00....it's about values and my way of life.

I've seen precious few young singles and dinks who have a clue about that. (sans soldiers)

So quit whining and lecturing me and get out there and get your peers to quit drinking the MTV koolaid. BTW....I came after half the Boomers had passed and they rode the crest so I've always felt like hind tit too.....like higher home prices, education costs and medical costs pushed up by the demand that swelled before me.....but I don't dwell on it.

[wardaddy]

Last poll I saw was Kerry leading by a few points in the 18-29 gang.


What I find more interesting.....


If a majority of non-hispanic white males vote W he might win....very likely.

If a majority on non-hispanic white women vote W he will most definitely win.

Those demographic patterns are more pertinent to victory than age grouping but I do not believe that white boomers are more liberal than Gen X or Y white kids....not from what I see.

I'm not ignoring minorities to be nasty, it's just that they vote so overwhelmingly Left except the Cubans that it skews what we are really trying to ascertain.

I also stand by my assertion that entitlements were begun by the boomers grandparents....and in reality....boomer votes ushered in Reagan and Bush the elder which helped slow that down.

I'm not sure on Clinton....he never got a majority....there was few Gen X and fewer Gen Y voting at the time. Did white boomers vote for Clinton...maybe....but I know my demographic sure didn't. It's sporting here to blame all ills on boomers by associating that all were hippie freak dunbasses. Well, W is a boomer...and he's no exception. Many boomers went to Nam....are they grifters too? Most freaks I see today are young. The Ministry freaks....I don't need any stats to tell me how they'll vote...if the do.

[wardaddy]

Boy ....you have a hard on for boomers.

Were you abandoned by your boomer folks?


I do like your generational listing....I was ignorant of such a thing.

[WKB]

I came after half the Boomers had passed and they rode the crest so I've always felt like hind tit too.....like higher home prices, education costs and "medical costs "

pushed up by the demand that swelled before me.....but I don't dwell on it.





WD you can blame me for that I was born in 1950
and have Arthritis,high blood pressure , diabetes , asthma
and a slight case of obesity.

[k2blader]

Last poll I saw was Kerry leading by a few points in the 18-29 gang.

Don't believe those MTV/C BS polls.

Here's what I found:

Newsweek Poll: Youth Vote Shows Bush, Kerry Neck-and-Neck (47% for Kerry, 45% for Bush)

Pew Research Center - Latest Survey report

In the Pew report, notice the results match the Newsweek poll for those under 30: 44% for Bush, 47% for Kerry. For age group 30-49, which includes some "Gen-Xers", Bush is ahead 49% to Kerry's 44%. Age group 50-64 is trending Kerry, as is that for those 65+.

Also, entitlements don't just need to be slowed down, they need to be eventually phased out. Per the Congressional Budget Office:

Since the mid-1970s, the United States has had roughly one Social Security beneficiary for every three workers paying payroll taxes. That ratio is projected to rise to nearly one beneficiary for every two workers by 2030 with the retirement of most baby boomers. After that, the combination of a low birth rate and longer life expectancy will keep raising the ratio.

And this doesn't even include the burden of Medicare on the taxpayers.

Q: So who's going to pay for it?
A: The younger workers.

This is a big problem. And I think conservatives, regardless of age, must accept the responsibility of dealing with the socialist mess now before it gets even worse.

[wardaddy]

For age group 30-49, which includes some "Gen-Xers", Bush is ahead 49% to Kerry's 44%

That is about 50/50 Boomer and X and includes me.

I would blame boomers who dress up in tie dye shirts with Wage Peace logos as fools as well as Boomers and GenX parents who smoke dope around their kids as fools too...yes I know some just like that. I would also blame Boomers for turning academia into a Stalinesque dream although admittedly they were weaned by older Red Diaper Babies.

I blame Sumner Redstone (almost old enough to be my grand pappy) for cultural destruction.

I blame his GenX and GenY minions for currently destroying CMT and cuntry music in general in trying to make it into something it's not....just like MTV/VHI

I blame folks older than my grandparents on SCOTUS in 72 for Roe v Wade and the ensuing murder of 30-40 million of the unborn.

I blame folks the age of my great great grandparents for the Income Tax and later FICA.

I could go on and on but it's pointless. I think folks who harp on this have an unhealthy generational resentment issue complex that they ought to see someone about.

I agree on fiscal responsibility outside of wartime but frankly I do not depend on FICA for squat. I make my wealth now and FICA is simply a nuisance for me to pay for others less fortunate or less driven or less lucky...whatever. They are taking my money to pay for the retirement of others. It's a national pension based on pure Ponzi and if we wish to blame anyone we should blame FDR and his helpers. (I do)....at least W wants to try to give folks a chance to enhance this mandated tax-investment.

It's like Property Taxes and F&E taxes...they go to pay for schools here in Nashville I have no intention of sending my kids to.....again....taking my money to give to someone else.

Like my federal income taxes a few years ago being used by Clinton to help pay for infanticide or to help Muslims by killing Christians (who have btw, been battling the religion of peace for about 1000 years longer than we have)

I loathe all that and more but I can't blame it specifically generationally and even if I could what's the point.....it's immature whining....and blaming others as a fixation is a distinctly lefty personality disorder (not you)

In any event....I'm going to research the poll data...so far I'm inclined to believe that amongst whites that my age group is the most conservative...especially if married with kids like me...BUT....we shall see soon enough won't we?.....but it still won't mean squat...just something to bullshite about.

Of my peers I know personally in my generation, I'd wager it's 98% for W....just like in 2000....but that's purely anecdotal.

[wardaddy]

I do blame you....but I was trying to be polite...lol

[dixiechick2000]

LOL! My...how you DO find the most contentious threads. ;o)


"Vast government spending and entitlements precedes the Boomers by at least a generation....arguably two generations so I'm tired of being blamed for it by you whiners."


You are absolutely right. Johnson's Great Society was an abomination. However, Boomers weren't old enough to vote at that time.

The one tax that I abhor is the tax on personal production...the income tax. I believe that all started in the 1870's or, at least, that is where it is rooted. Mandatory withholding occurred in the early '40s.

My point being that, no matter what the era, TPTB in government have been doing their best to garnish power, by whatever means, throughout the history of this country.

People tend to equate the '60s with hippies, druggies, war protesters and their ilk. However, relatively speaking, they were but a handful of people who were able to garner a lot of publicity. MSM hasn't changed for the better since then, either.

I don't like these labels. They tend to pit one generation against another. The fact is that every generation has it's successes, and it's failures.



"I don't make up shite. I lived it."


Yep! Me, too...and I wouldn't have it any other way.

[dixiechick2000]

LOL at you two. ;o)

[wardaddy]

Well said....all generations have warts.

and when you were born is like one's race or ethnicity....not much can be done about it.


some of these youngbloods think we are all like from Woodstock Nation....I was 11 in August 69.

[dixiechick2000]

Hey! I got another one of these!



Posted by dixiechick2000 to wardaddy; WKB
On News/Activism ^ 10/23/2004 11:06:08 PM PDT · 52 of 51 ^



I posted before I didn't post?
Or, I didn't post before I posted? ;o)

In any case, it still hasn't shown up on my comments page
and I can't get it when I refresh.

[dixiechick2000]

I graduated from High School in '69.

I may have dressed like a hippie at times, but that was just a fashion statement.
I was clean. ;o)

[wardaddy]

Well.....I've already made my dazed and confused confessions so I won't repeat myself but I turned out OK by aged 30.

[dixiechick2000]

Don't sell yourself short.
You turned out better than almost everyone. ;o)

[antaresequity]

Hmmm...I am at a total loss now...DOB 61 puts me on the edge of the BB gen, yet I feel so Gen-X having embraced technology and computer programing...

The conflict is destroying my sense of self and identity...

I just want to sign up on the next Tuna boat leaving port...I cant handle it

[Smokin' Joe]

Stereotyping about Generation-This and Generation-That is based on the spurious idea that a person's beliefs, tastes, and preferences are determined primarily by his birth date. It is a way of setting one group of Americans against another, much like the Marxists' pernicious "theories" of class warfare.

Bravo! Someone Gets It!

Exactly. Although children have always had differences with their parents (part of the normal process of maturation), they have traditionally had more in common than not. Only with the emphasis of the "generation Gap", a liberal socialist, media endorsed affectation, has there grown a gap that seems occasionally insurmountable. MTV is one of the worst. The 'trimmings' (technology, mainly) have changed, but basic human problems (and solutions) remain the same.

As for social security and other programs, yes the 'baby boomers' have some clout, but those on the 'tail end' of the boom have followed in the footsteps of the herd that preceeded them by only a couple of years, and have had to really bust butt to get anywhere. WHen we get to the water hole, it will be a small mud hole at best, and we will have paid for it our entire lives.

Better to be an achiever who is 20 years behind the herd than trying to advance through the dust.

[wardaddy]

thank you dear.


we are forgoing iglesia in the morning and getting a sitter at noon so we can go to do a tour of The Hermitage...should be a lovely fall day....and I have never been on the grounds.


I've been able to freep late two days in a row now after my last trip. Since July I have been to Jackson, North Carolina 4 times, Seaside, and Lexington/Charlottesville/Richmond and Oxford and Hilton Head....basically a trip every 10 days or so...by car. Most I've traveled since I became a full stateside resident again.

I'm eating a pomegranate right now....maybe the bitterness is steering me to those contentious threads or maybe I bring out the best in folks...lol