[PAR35]

12 billion years old is a little closer to the mark.

In theory, but can it be proven as a matter of fact?

[RadioAstronomer]

In theory, but can it be proven as a matter of fact?

Lets take up the discussion/argument after the election. :-)

This election is more important than a crevo debate now.

[AMHN]

Actually, we are speaking of the visible universe (the distance light can travel at it present limit since the beginning). Estimates range from 12 to 15 billion years (but we won't know until Hubble, or the next Generation Space Telescopes, find the limit of visible light). The actual universe may be infinite in size, but unless we can see tachyons (which in theory travel faster than the speed of light), we will be limited to the visible universe.