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Rock Band Queensryche Sticks It To Bush (Operation Mindcrime Part 2)
Portland Tribune ^ | 10-19-04

Posted on 10/20/2004 3:44:54 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

I think a better question would be: What was the last album you payed for?

Mine was "Me and Mr. Johnson" by Eric Clapton


121 posted on 10/21/2004 2:45:18 PM PDT by RUCKUS INC. (Mount St. Helens is just warming up for the impending armageddon should John Kerry win in Nov.)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

Now we're really screwed. Jesse "the body" and Eminem just came out against Bush.

What are we going to do?

Somebody call the Junkyard Dog and Captain Lou Albano and see if they'll support Bush!!! Maybe Superfly Jimmy Snuka?


122 posted on 10/22/2004 10:51:22 AM PDT by RUCKUS INC. (Mount St. Helens is just warming up for the impending armageddon should John Kerry win in Nov.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
I saw them last night at the HOB Cleveland. Aside from a few Bush images at the beginning of the Operation Mindcrime set they kept the Bush-bashing to a minimum. Perhaps they realized that a lot of metal fans are conservatives.

That said, it does disappoint me. The very subjects covered by Operation Mindcrime are things I associate with the Left, but the 'Ryche associates them with the Right. I can still listen to that album but I have to interpret it my way.

Musically, they kick a$$. Geoff Tate does have the best pipes in the business, and the band is solid. Too bad they're liberal nutcases.

123 posted on 01/31/2005 6:23:15 AM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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To: infidel29
The very items that Operation Mindcrime deals with are things that I (and anyone with a brain) associate with the LEFT, not the RIGHT.
124 posted on 01/31/2005 6:28:33 AM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I saw Queensryche open for Def Leppard way back in 1988 or so. They blew chunks. They were trying to be progressive, but without the talent to pull it off.

I would boycott them, but since I never owned anything by them, I am already in a defacto boycott.


125 posted on 01/31/2005 6:37:47 AM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Musically, Queensryche is amazing. Good enough that I can ignore their politics.

Dream Theater and Fates Warning are better, IMHO, however.


126 posted on 01/31/2005 6:55:31 AM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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To: RockinRight
Dream Theater and Fates Warning are better, IMHO, however.

Dream Theater is a band that has enough talent to pull off truly 'progressive' music. I don't see Queensryche as having anywhere near Dream Theaters skills.

Have you seen DT's Live at Budokan DVD?

127 posted on 01/31/2005 7:10:39 AM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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To: drew

I interviewed Geoff Tate when I was stationed in Japan, for a radio program, and he seemed like a nice enough guy, but the "quasi-intellectual" stuff came through loud and clear. It's only rock and roll, Geoff.


128 posted on 01/31/2005 7:18:13 AM PST by rabidralph (Congratulations, Pres. Bush and VP Cheney!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

"Queensryche needs DeGarmo to be there or we are only seeing half of what a once great band used to be. Chris actually chooses to fly private jet's now for rich clients...he says he makes more money than he would touring with QR."


DeGarmo almost won American Idol last year. She's on her own now. ;)


129 posted on 01/31/2005 7:24:11 AM PST by JZelle
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To: JZelle

LMFAO!


130 posted on 01/31/2005 10:19:05 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Watch TV, What Do You Want From Me?)
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To: RockinRight

vh1 classic has been pumping the ever living hell out of this tour they have starting...they toned it down a bit because they have no impact on a pending election now...I bet they didn't acknowledge the revolution that happened in Iraq yesterday...did they?


131 posted on 01/31/2005 10:20:38 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Watch TV, What Do You Want From Me?)
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To: RockinRight

REVIEW

Queensryche's Political Message, Like Its Orlando Performance, Falls Flat

By Douglas Maher

LAKE BUENA VISTA
The 1980s rock band Queensryche made its way through Florida last week with a stop at the House of Blues in Downtown Disney.

Queensryche, responsible for such hit albums as 1988's multimillion seller "Operation: Mindcrime" and 1991's multi-platinum selling "Empire," spent part of the concert offering political advice to the crowd.

Unlike the recent Rock for Change tour that's been playing hockey arenas throughout the fall with such acts as Bruce Springsteen, REM, John Mellancamp, The Dave Matthews Band, and others, Queensryche did an evening of political rock on their own.

Queensryche has managed to sell more than 10 million albums globally since the early 1980s, but it was easy to see how the band has managed to go from playing sold out arenas in the 1990s to grabbing barely 2,000 people on a recent Sunday in Downtown Disney.

To be blunt: Queensryche has become stale.

Not to be fooled by any means, Queensryche still contains scraps of talent, especially when speaking about lead vocalist Geoff Tate's abilities. He is possibly one of the greatest voices in rock music today.

The band is injured, though, by the spot that's been vacated by founding guitarist Chris DeGarmo, who is no longer playing for smaller crowds.

The problem with Queensryche is they think they are more important and relevant than they really are. When the band took the stage for part one of the Evening With Queensryche show, the band played a short set of 10 songs that spanned from the hit single "Jet City Woman" and "Another Rainy Night Without You" to the political "Empire" and dreamy bedtime story, "Silent Lucidity," which grabbed a Grammy nod back in the early 1990s.

Unlike bands from the same era -- like the Canadian rock band Rush, who play well over 31/2 hours per show -- Queensryche managed to muster up a mere 50 minutes of music before taking an intermission. It was bad enough that you had to stand for an extra hour for the doors to open, and then another hour for the show to start; now Queensryche were taking an intermission after barely an hour on stage.

The stage was changed into what one could only call a community theater prop set, and then the familiar sounds of "Operation: Mindcrime" came across the PA and video screen.

Queensryche decided to bring out actors to portray the story of a drug addicted, paranoid man named Nicky, who was put under some form of mind control from the U.S. government, which hired Nicky to kill local religious leaders and a nun named Mary.

All of this was sandwiched between nonstop video images of President Bush in a less than flattering light. The most stunning moment was when Queensryche played the track "Revolution Calling," a song about making a rally cry for Americans to take over their government in a revolution, while Nicky paced the stage with a mock handgun.

The show came to a merciful ending and then the band offered a premiere of "Operation: Mindcrime Part 2 -- Coming Soon in 2005," with a video and audio track of the first single to come from it, "Hostage."

It appeared to me that Queensryche has run out of ideas and needs to return to what put them on the map to begin with; but that simply wasn't going to happen at this concert. It seems to me that Queensryche's best days are behind them, and now they've returned to concept albums.

If the band was being overtly political, so were many in the crowd, who had a decidedly mixed reaction to the band's decision to combine rock with politics. There were Independent voters, Democrats and Republicans in attendance, not to mention many from out of town, such as Steve Maggi, a resident of Argentina who said, "I flew in to see these shows, and meet up with a friend from Indiana. I have been a fan for decades of Queensryche. They have their core following, and I honestly feel they hit both political parties fairly in their live show."

Maggi's friend, Andy Manchir of Indiana, disagreed.

"Seeing a rock show is not going to decide my vote for president," he said. "Queensryche has always been political, but it is probably getting a bit more attention right now because of everything going on with the election. I'm not offended."

Hector Delgado came in from Kissimmee to see the show and afterwards said, "These guys are just blind. I can't believe this is the same band that I used to listen to for hours in high school. I used to be inspired by them. Now I'm embarrassed, not just by the smaller venue, but that the message they are trying to use is just pure hatred. Then they have the audacity to throw a peace sign in the air at the end of the show. Get real."

Not everyone was so critical. Steve Stack of Kissimmee found it to be "a really amazing show. No band out there today has the guts to perform what just went on inside. As far as the politics go, I am a Republican and I am here with Republicans and Democrats. I was not offended by what I saw, but then again, I am not swayed by what Hollywood and the music industry tells me as far as politics goes."

Stack added: "My advice for people is to become informed before you vote and study the issues. Being partisan is being blind."

That's a lesson Queensryche obviously has not learned in nearly 25 years.

House of Blues Orlando is at 1490 E. Buena Vista Dr. at Downtown Disney. The box office number is 407-934-BLUE.

Upcoming concerts include Switchfoot with The Format today, Deep Dish with special guests on Friday, the MTV2 Headbangers Ball on Nov. 12, Jonny Lang on Nov. 13 and Bouncing Souls on Nov. 14.

House of Blues is also known for its popular Sunday Gospel Brunch, featuring inspiring gospel performances and a buffet to feed the body and the soul.

Douglas Maher is a feature writer. He can be reached at The Reporter office at 863-421-5577.


132 posted on 01/31/2005 10:31:47 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Watch TV, What Do You Want From Me?)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Not a word.


133 posted on 01/31/2005 10:52:56 AM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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To: RockinRight
Mindcrime exists in a world where corporations control all aspects of society, in that instance QR is on the right path.

Unfortunately, they are way off base if they think corporations run the world. Sure, the global economy is a if not the major influence on society, but there are so many handcuffs put on capitalism from environmentalists to special interest groups that I find it hard to believe they are handicapping themselves (if we are to believe that "the rich control the government the media the law...")

If anything, it is as you suggest, the left controls the government, the media, the law... since, by it's nature, government is a construct of the left. The media is absolutely controlled by liberals and activist judges threaten freedom and the Constitution on a daily basis.

134 posted on 01/31/2005 12:05:02 PM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT- B.F.)
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To: RockinRight

That's what I've always thought too, to my ear Nicky was duped by drug dealers using a fellow traveler message to get people that were being effective in keeping people off drugs and competing drug dealers out of the way. Then he figures out he's been duped and they turn him in to the cops. Great music though. Real shame how the mighty Ryche has fallen, although maybe they just over achieved for a while, their pre-Mindcrime albums had issues.


135 posted on 01/31/2005 12:14:20 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: rennatdm

I agree with your whole post. The 1st was an EP, and it was awesome. Now, I can't stand them.


136 posted on 01/31/2005 12:21:00 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: jordan8

It was Tommy, not Nikki!

And I love Motley Crue...


138 posted on 09/13/2005 2:02:45 PM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: RockinRight
Dream Theater and Fates Warning are better...

it seems to me that in DT everyone wants to prove that he is the one that can play his instrument the more complicated and loudest way. The result is sometimes a mess. But they're not bad, especially Octavarium
139 posted on 02/22/2006 3:53:24 AM PST by rudeer_poke
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