> It's how the "got dead" that counts.
Indeed so. And none of these, so far as I know, got dead for the purposes of being harvested for stem cells. They were "got dead" through means that would exist whether the stem cell thing was around or not.
Ripping the stem cells from the Embryos kills the alive embryos ... a caustic fluid is used to take away the protective perimeter of the embryo. The stem cells are 'taken' once the embryo has been KILLED, chemically.