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He makes some good points.
1 posted on 10/18/2004 6:43:11 PM PDT by wagglebee
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Speaking for myself, I can definetly love a woman who's been trained to be a pervert. (In fact I do, and I'm still training her!)


2 posted on 10/18/2004 6:47:06 PM PDT by Slump Tester (John Kerry - When even your best still isn't good enough)
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3 posted on 10/18/2004 6:47:12 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: wagglebee

I was not trained to be a pervert.
I am self-taught.


4 posted on 10/18/2004 6:47:26 PM PDT by DefCon
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Never in history have women been so sexually exploited as they are today.

Like hell. I can't take anything he says seriously after making this statement.

5 posted on 10/18/2004 6:48:29 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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Alot of good points....and I'm a woman.


6 posted on 10/18/2004 6:48:29 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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O'Reilly is no conservative. Never has been. Irrespective of this stuff, never will be. WND of all places should know this.


7 posted on 10/18/2004 6:48:41 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (Democrats and free speech are like oil and water)
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I think that he is spot on. Excellent article.


8 posted on 10/18/2004 6:49:12 PM PDT by Siamese Princess
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Who needs training? I call it testosterone poisoning.


9 posted on 10/18/2004 6:49:37 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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11 posted on 10/18/2004 6:50:17 PM PDT by TheBigB (OPEN YOUR EYES, Clark Kent! You belong with CHLOE!)
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What I don't get is the incongruency of women.

One one hand they have more now than they ever have - they are open to explore different careers, they can make a lot of money, etc. They have proven that they are just as tough as any man in the work environment.

Yet, some of those same women seem to wilt if the conversation becomes off-color, or boorish. In times like this they revert to a 16th century 'delicate flower' posture - 'offended' by an off the cuff remark so much as to find the entire environement somewhat 'hostile' to them.

It's ironic that I think the average woman of the 1840s and 1950s, for example, appears to have been a whole lot tougher in matters like this. If a man began acting significantly less than a gentleman, a woman would quickly put him in place with a slap, and otherwise tell him that if he kept it up her brothers, boyfrined, or husband would come by and kick the crap out of him. Seems to me the pre-feminist woman handled these things a lot better.

You've come a long way, baby - wilting at the mention of a pee pee, pubic hair on a soda bottle, or heaven forbid, "I would have had a lot of fun with you two back in college!"


13 posted on 10/18/2004 6:51:22 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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Personally, there is BS on both sides of the bed. Harassment and Greed are the bed fellows today. There are decent men and women as well; but everyone knows how to deal with this stuff by now and it is painful to have to keep reading about it. I doubt if there are any innocents on either side of this case. It is a matter of money and how much the lawyer can make.


16 posted on 10/18/2004 6:52:58 PM PDT by Henchman (Kerry: No guts, No Glory, No way!)
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I believe a similar case can be made about the difficulties of life today in the USA for the average male.

Besides, isn't it odd that identical behavior by the same person on different days can be harassment on one day and welcomed on another, depending on how that person 'feels'. What kind of legal system bases the judgment of whether or not a crime has been committed on 'feelings'?
18 posted on 10/18/2004 6:53:11 PM PDT by ml1954 (Kerry, A Legend In His Own Mind.)
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Ping.


20 posted on 10/18/2004 6:54:23 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. + http://www.alamo-girl.com/)
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There is this old fashioned concept called SELF CONTROL. No one is putting a gun to the head of any man to watch TV shows or drool after a woman.


21 posted on 10/18/2004 6:55:13 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Born and raised to be a professional, and proud of it. ;)
29 posted on 10/18/2004 7:00:09 PM PDT by codyjacksmom (Attention All Girlie-men...Please don't forget your foo foo's on the way out the door.)
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To: wagglebee
Is the author of this article Michael Jackson's rabbi?

Didn't he defend Wacko Jacko against charges of child molestation, and doesn't he (at least pretend) to think that Wacko Jacko is just a regular guy?

While this rabbi makes good points in his article, he also has "stars in his eyes." When he sees a celeb, he forgets all his good points.

30 posted on 10/18/2004 7:00:47 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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The wild thing is that the guy with the see-through colleague can't prosecute HER for harrassment.....or he's thought to be gay.

In reality, women will always be marginalized, unless they dress so asexually that men never think of them that way. But then they will thought of as not quite human either.

But then again, they always get custody.


32 posted on 10/18/2004 7:01:55 PM PDT by Turk82_1 (They also serve who merely stand and wait.)
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We've become conditioned to being bombarded with sexual imagery, which is degrading to both men and women. I think it accounts for a lot of sexual dysfunction, too---not to mention problems between the sexes.

When I look at the images coming out of Hollywood, I feel sad. It's sad that we can't aspire to something better. Our society has become very crude and crass.

36 posted on 10/18/2004 7:04:15 PM PDT by Innisfree
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We have a gal at work who is ..well unpolished. I like her and all, but she is rather crude.

That doesnt bother me. Hell Im an old salior.

What does bother me is that a good man that works for us was tagged by her for sexual harrasment.

He was only playing to her lead on jokes and was not trying to get "IN" with her. Hell He is 2 years from retirement and married


39 posted on 10/18/2004 7:06:38 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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Any man in America who makes any sexual references whatsoever in an office environment is asking for trouble. Males in positions of responsibility have to be absolutely above reproach because any utterance can be used to deprive him of his career and life.
42 posted on 10/18/2004 7:08:05 PM PDT by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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