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ABC Poll: Candidates Neck and Neck (W50%, K47% - Job Approval 53%)
ABC News ^ | 10/18

Posted on 10/18/2004 2:31:13 PM PDT by ambrose

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To: Dog

I like that breakdown, its probably a more realistic number for there to be 36% dims and 34% Republicansm, rather than the Gallup flavor of the week polls.


21 posted on 10/18/2004 2:39:36 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: traderrob6

Except that 9% think Kerry is too conservative and 6% think Bush is too liberal. This just goes to show polls are WAY WAY off and litered with idiots. Do you really think the people who think Kerry is too conservatie and Bush too liberal will know how to find there way to the polling place?


22 posted on 10/18/2004 2:40:10 PM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: ambrose

INternals, internals, internals. Besides being at 50%, the internals are great if measuring where undecideds will break.

Nothing but good news in that write up.


23 posted on 10/18/2004 2:42:55 PM PDT by madison46 (Will we EVER get a poll out of OH??)
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To: RockinRight

You ever notice, hopw they give a poll, say it's 52-48..MOE is +/- 3..therefore they always say it's within the margin or error..true, but it could just as easily therefore be 55-45


24 posted on 10/18/2004 2:43:00 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: ambrose

Joe Lockhart said job approval means everything yesterday.

http://realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/bush_ja.html

Looks like that is also up!


25 posted on 10/18/2004 2:44:46 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: Illinois Rep

No worries....the people who answered that foolishly will never vote,,,,,,Hopefully


26 posted on 10/18/2004 2:45:09 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

I think those voters are the ones getting crack provided to them by the DNC for showing up to vote early (and often no doubt)


27 posted on 10/18/2004 2:47:52 PM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: Illinois Rep

Most people here think Bush is too liberal. But we're still voting for him. :-)


28 posted on 10/18/2004 2:48:14 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: ambrose

"Neck and neck"

"slight edge"

Starting to sound like talking points to me.


29 posted on 10/18/2004 2:48:40 PM PDT by saigon
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To: ambrose
They STILL don't get it: "Another is the fact that terrorism, Bush's keystone issue, has slipped on the priority list as the candidates have focused on domestic matters."

Issue Now 9/26

Iraq 26 20

Terrorism 19 24

THIS IS THE SAME DAMN ISSUE. IN FACT, BUSH HAS GAINED A POINT IN THE TWO COMBINED ISSUES!!!!!!! AAAARRRRRGGGGGEEHHHHH.

30 posted on 10/18/2004 2:48:50 PM PDT by LS
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To: ambrose

Bush leads 52-4l on handling of Iraq but on that issue Kerry leads. Explain that one.


31 posted on 10/18/2004 2:51:19 PM PDT by rushmom
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To: clintg

Trust me, as a history professor, I can tell you that most elections in U.S. history are quite close. Either the pop vote or the EC is usually close. FDR had an electoral blowout in, I think, 1940, but the popular vote was much closer than you would think. Three elections (1884, 1888, and 1892) were decided by a few electoral votes and a small pop vote margin.


32 posted on 10/18/2004 2:51:21 PM PDT by LS
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To: rushmom

He led on that one....before he didn't


33 posted on 10/18/2004 2:53:32 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: LS

I agree with you--yet history has NO way of predicting how elections will turn with late breaking news that is spread with the speed of light of the internet. Any late inning-October surprised could cause a landslide in this Presidential election cycle. The internet has finally grown out of it's infancy and is in full throttle. This election could well defy the historians predictions. Possibly?


34 posted on 10/18/2004 2:53:47 PM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: ambrose

A theory on why the internals are kinder to Bush than the who would you vote for question: I think people are disappointed in how the leadup to Iraq created false impressions about WMD and they are mad about it.

How does that anger manifest itself? I think there is a segment of people who are saying they are going to vote for Kerry but in their hearts, they know Bush to be the better leader.

So they answer the internals with much higher praise than would seem appropriate given Bush's overall support number.

When it comes time to pull the trigger on voting day, these votes will either break for Bush or stay home.

Isn't the same the case for poll questions about taxes? When polled people say they don't favor tax cuts but when they vote they are overwhelmingly in favor of them.

I think the same pattern will emerge in this election.

A segment of the "I'm voting for Kerry" people are lodging a soft protest at this stage but many of them will not follow through.

That plus the libs running the polls are cooking their books.


35 posted on 10/18/2004 2:55:26 PM PDT by BigTime
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To: rushmom
Bush leads 52-4l on handling of Iraq but on that issue Kerry leads. Explain that one.

The overall public trust Bush more than Kerry on Iraq, but people who are voting for Kerry consider Iraq their top issue.

36 posted on 10/18/2004 2:56:32 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: Petronski

Job approval is 53? I wonder if that is 52.5 or 53.4.



MOE makes the decimal irrelevant.


37 posted on 10/18/2004 3:17:23 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: clintg

I makes perfect sense. Polls regularly understate Republican strength. FOr example the 1996 polls had CLinton up by 13 against Dole - he won by 8 ...
A Bush lead of 3 in the polls is no "neck and neck", his real performance could be 6-8 point victory.

JA of 53% translates into 53% voting for him -> 6-8 point victory.

JMHO.


38 posted on 10/18/2004 3:18:49 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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To: LS
Trust me, as a history professor, I can tell you that most elections in U.S. history are quite close. Either the pop vote or the EC is usually close. FDR had an electoral blowout in, I think, 1940, but the popular vote was much closer than you would think. Three elections (1884, 1888, and 1892) were decided by a few electoral votes and a small pop vote margin.


Indeed. The very essence of the two-party system leads each to moderate to gain the middle, but not to compromise the core principles so much as to gain a needless excess majority.
39 posted on 10/18/2004 3:19:58 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba

I know that.


40 posted on 10/18/2004 3:28:13 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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