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Fustrated Democrats
The Washington Times ^ | October 15 2004 | Arnold Beichman

Posted on 10/16/2004 9:07:54 AM PDT by Oakleaf

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To: MrFred

Swell, but if the Republicans are as much a force as columns like this claim, then they should pass their agenda. They should make incremental but sustained cuts in the insane tax code, regulations, immigration law, federal bureaucracy and spending (even in the defense department), and all the big government that sustains the democrats on a national level in order to encourage the Democrat party to die. They also need to get the activist justices out of the courts. They should do this rather than pick up where the Democrats left off. People are still nervous about stability in the world and the economy back here, and I think most conservative voters are giving Republicans the benefit of a doubt this year. But the GOP doesn't want to be in the situation it was in back in 1991-92.


21 posted on 10/16/2004 9:30:19 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
They'll probably never resume their former stature until (or unless) they rid themselves of the whack-job fringe that has comprised their base for the past 30 years.

As the Democrat party sinks further under the control of the radical Left, they become increasingly unattractive to the majority. Thus they have to rely more and more on sycophant media and massive vote fraud. Mostly, the Dim sheeple just go along, not recognizing how radical and marginalized their party is becoming. But this year, finally, some are breaking away.

22 posted on 10/16/2004 9:31:32 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Time to let slip the dogs...)
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To: austinaero
"pernicious" is a good one too.

I'm The Slime Lyrics

Artist: Frank Zappa
Album: Overnite Sensation

I am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed 'n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little had changed
I am the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you
I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With the stuff that I say
I am the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I am the slime oozin' out
From your TV set
You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't go for help...no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold
That's right, folks.. Don't touch that dial
Well, I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livingroom floor
I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go

23 posted on 10/16/2004 9:35:22 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Oakleaf
I think Democrats rely to an unhealthy degree on the government for moral affirmation. They want the government not just to perform its duties but to positively affirm who is Good and who is not. And the moral plane from which it must do this is of course that occupied by the Left. It is not enough that the government do a good job at national defense, regulatory oversight and so on. If it does not also positively affirm the moral viewpoint of the left then the universe is out of whack and must be fixed. To get an idea what the Bush presidency feels like to a Democrat, imagine if God forgot your name. Sure, He's still God and everything, but still.

I noticed a huge Kerry-Edwards lawn sign in a co-worker's office yesterday - is it just me or is displaying these things in an office setting just plain tacky? - and asked why he was voting for Kerry. His response made no mention of Kerry at all but instead rattled off a list of things Bush is damaging: Separation of church and state and human rights topped the list. I asked for an example of human rights violations; he cited Abu Graibh. I asked if the elimination of Saddam should not also be taken into account before deciding whether the human rights situation was better or worse under Bush. His response? He called me an idiot. That was his only response. Sadly, this total inability to reason is typical of the Democrats I have spoken to this year, and working in Philly I've to a great many.

24 posted on 10/16/2004 9:42:04 AM PDT by redbaiter
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To: Founding Father
The reason the Republicans have dominance in government now is that Republicans today are what Dems were in the 60s. If the Repubs hadn't drifted leftward as the Dems did, there's be a strong centrist party now. As it is, there is a centrist party - the Republican party. And you are completely correct: why can't government be reduced and spending cut? It's because they don't want to." And guess else doesn't want to? The majority of American voters. Otherwise, they'd vote Republicans out of office.

I know it's frustrating, but at least the centrist Republican party today embraces family and fairly traditional morality, unlike the leftist DemocRat party, and that means a more moderate federal bench, hopefully.

Regards.

25 posted on 10/16/2004 9:49:49 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: Oakleaf

we're gonna pick up more seats too...I JUST KNOW IT!!...I have a feeling its gonna be another landslide for our side...


26 posted on 10/16/2004 9:50:20 AM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: Oakleaf

27 posted on 10/16/2004 9:52:56 AM PDT by LiveFreeorDieNow
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To: Oakleaf

The answer is simple: the democrat party is bankrupt for ideas and values . . . and has been for some time.


28 posted on 10/16/2004 10:02:35 AM PDT by Paraclete
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To: Republic Rocker
Fully agree. IMHO, any future GOP senator from CA will have to have "star power." The state is just too big and too "personality cult" focused to have merely a "good politician" lead it anymore.

Dennis Miller (I know, he's not pro-life); George P. Bush could relocate there and begin building; etc.

29 posted on 10/16/2004 10:14:50 AM PDT by LS
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To: Unam Sanctam

Whoa! I did forget that!


30 posted on 10/16/2004 10:15:11 AM PDT by LS
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To: LS

If dems would look who they are running for office I would be fustrated also.


31 posted on 10/16/2004 10:19:15 AM PDT by jocko12
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To: Oakleaf

Does anyone have any figures, hard data on how many dems have switched to the Republicans in the last decade? I keep on seeing stories about this state rep or that state senator having switched. How many is it who saw the light, the numbers have GOT to be in the hundreds nationwide in the last decade.

I hate to mention it but how many have turned tratitor other than he-whose-name-I-shall-not-speak? That and some NJ representative who betrayed us all because he got his knickers in a knot over our pushing some good gun bill. Anyone else?


32 posted on 10/16/2004 10:23:54 AM PDT by Oakleaf
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To: redbaiter
I think Democrats rely to an unhealthy degree on the government for moral affirmation. They want the government not just to perform its duties but to positively affirm who is Good and who is not

You are right. There is a general solipsism on the Left which denies objective truth, reasoned argument, facts and figures . . . and there is also a substitution of Government for God. Last week I presented 21 clear Bush proposals on health care to a liberal at work. He responded, "I just don't see any logic." That was his whole respnse. No reasoned argument. No debate over facts. That's the way they are.

33 posted on 10/16/2004 10:26:34 AM PDT by MrChips (ARD)
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To: Oakleaf


The Freaks control the RAT party now.
34 posted on 10/16/2004 10:30:59 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: MrChips

I look at politics in 3 areas.

On the right and left you have extremists. The Rights extremists believe in the constitution, believe that god is the foundation for our beliefs and believe that each individual was given god given rights that are to be protected by the laws given to us by both the constitution and the bible.

The lefts extremists are secularists that believe the state is the keeper of everyones lives and that our "god given" rights are to be doled out by the state at their whim. The constitution to the left is an inconvenience and obstacle to the power of the state.

Then you have everyone in between. These are Republicans and Democrats, rather than conservatives and liberals. This group believes in the workings of the constitution and respect that we have god given rights. However they would also like to see some relaxation of the laws as it pertains to the individual. In all fairness to this group, areas such as abortion and gay marriage fall into the "gray" area where people believe that this is their right. However extremists from both sides made this an issue more than twenty years ago and in a way has Divided the nation.

Bottom line is we are starting to see more of a polarization then at any time in American history. Look at the world. Most countries are governed by "the state" and not the individual. The left is determined to turn this country into a state governed by the state for the state. The people are mere pawns in their goal to control the resources of this country.

Which leaves the right and everyone else. The right wants this country to be run like churches in 15th century Italy.

Which leaves everyone in the middle. People, it is time to wake up. Because that 45-45-10 is quickly becoming 35-35-30. And that 30% of what the media calls undecided is what will change this countryover the next 10-20 years. It is convincing that part of the population that it is indiviual freedom and liberty that make this country great and not state dominated radicalism.

The 60's was a failed social experiment. Look at everything the state controls in this country. Slums, unions, education. All failed policies. It has no place n 2004.

Start waking up people to this. We need a 527 that can spend the next four years broadcasting this. Whether we win or lose, it must be told to the people.

Because if not, we will wind up like the Soviet Union, France, Germany and other nations where the state controls the people.

Just my 2 cents.


35 posted on 10/16/2004 10:50:36 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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To: RichardW

If the Republicans had a spokesman like James "Pit Viper" Carville, I think I would change my voter registration to Losertarian or the Constipation Party.


36 posted on 10/16/2004 10:52:18 AM PDT by attiladhun2
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To: Cboldt
Zappa was almost like Nostradamus in some aspects. He also did "Pajama People" and "The Poodle Bites". However, I think he really captured Kerry's essence in "Muffin Man".
37 posted on 10/16/2004 11:31:20 AM PDT by zygoat
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To: Oakleaf

it misses the remaining two (& imo, most criticaal power nexuses if only for the enormous damage they can do and have done...) - the judiciary and the media.


38 posted on 10/16/2004 12:11:25 PM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: Oakleaf

ping for later read.


39 posted on 10/16/2004 1:13:51 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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40 posted on 10/16/2004 3:38:27 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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