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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Don't let them fool you,, China, and North Korea's boss are chum chum buddys.

That certainly accords with what I see: they are allies, with a strong treaty that neither has made any mention of revisiting that I have seen. There are delegations going back and forth; Kim Jong-Il himself went for a nice visit in April, and another delegation is sallying forth soon:

DPRK Delegation to Pay Official Goodwill Visit to China

Pyongyang, October 12 (KCNA) -- The delegation of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea led by Kim Yong Nam, president of the Presidium of the Supreme People's Assembly, will soon pay an official goodwill visit to the People's Republic of China (PRC) at the invitation of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress and the State Council of the PRC.

"Source": KCNA

It is my belief that you wouldn't see such going on if there were overt hostilities about to begin. Apparently, Prime Minister Koizumi from Japan is not welcome in the PRC merely because of his visits to Yasukuni. I would assume that if China were truly upset with its lackey state, it would also make it apparent to them via the cold shoulder.

For that matter, Kim was in Beijing just in April. If they wanted to terminate his leadership, they could have just taken him at that time. It certainly would have meant less effort than a full-scale assault across the border a few months later.

My guess is that Kim's satrapy is in no danger from China.

25 posted on 10/15/2004 4:55:55 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: snowsislander
What I see going on now, is ( look at the facts )
China has nukes, North Korea has nukes ( I am not sure if south Korea has any nukes , can anyone do some research on that please ? ).
Japan does not have any nukes.
Do you think ? that our troops is going to deter China and North Korea to invade the south ( and maybe Japan ) if they ( China and North Korea ) has nukes ?
And the US has to read lightly in this matter, because they have those nukes ( thanks to BILLY BOB BILL CLINTON ).
Also, look at how the American peoples WILL for fighting the war in Vietnam back in the 60s, and look at how that same thing is happening now, ( NO THANK TO JOHN KERRY and the LEFT/LIBS/FEMS ) .
China knows , that we as a nation, is divided, polarized, and they see that we are weak now ( thanks to the left, dems, fems, libs ) .
They know, we have our forces in other parts of the world, I don't think, our troop force is going to deter them in Korea.
Also, China and North Korea sees this as their best opportunity to invade south Korea when they see what will happen during our election.
Let's HOPE GEORGE BUSH WINS IN A LANDSIDE by a LARGE MARGIN, because, the Chinese, and North Korea will take advantage of our weakness, and ciaos in our country during this election.
28 posted on 10/15/2004 5:16:59 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: snowsislander

A goodwill visit? That sounds more like a cover for talks with China about how to avoid a military conflict. China has no problem engaging in bi-lateral talks with North Korea if it serves the interests of China. My guess would be that these meetings are essentially made up of someone from North Korea pleading with someone from China not to attack, and someone from China demanding they give up their nuclear weapons program. It looks to me as though China's dropping into some shotgun diplomacy.


46 posted on 10/15/2004 7:30:25 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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