Posted on 10/14/2004 9:46:25 PM PDT by Coleus
One good thing that has come out of the shameful queer priest episodes is that conservative priests and prelates are beginning to speak out.
Now, if only something could be done about the Jesuits!
Well, he pretended to be Irish for a long time, too.
After this damn election I hope we can find mutual Pro-Life topics to discuss.
And here’s one: It's not so much the fault of politics that our culture is in the rotten shape it's in. It's the fault of traitorous, as well as spineless Christian leaders who never properly educated their flocks—and parents their children—on the sanctity of life and the just role of government.
Askel, I finished The McHugh Chronicles. I think McHugh caused more damage to the Respect for life than any TWO politicians including Bush the 1st and Kissinger.
Would you agree?
And here’s one: It's not so much the fault of politics that our culture is in the rotten shape it's in. It's the fault of traitorous, as well as spineless Christian leaders who never properly educated their flocks—and parents their children—on the sanctity of life and the just role of government. - cpforlife.org
I am confused as to why such people would attach themselves to a religion.
OUCH!!! Well put and worthy of serious thought for those who do not frequent this site.... especially those who call themselves Catholic.
But none of those other issues have anything to do with Church doctrine.
No where did the Church mention loosing one souls, the closest thing stated was a Sin, which can be forgiven when the sinner asks for it. The only one who talked of loosing ones soul is the author.
In part ... but only because he -- like Bush I, Bush II and Kissinger -- did his work from the INSIDE.
As for the education of Christian leaders, I think most are familiar with Commandment No. 2 ... thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain. And one would assume a politician -- Christian or not -- would be familiar with the Declaration's holding that "all men are CREATED equal."
That's just another reason I cannot fathom how Christians could possibly countenance the gilding of Bush's ESCR decision with Scripture. Seriously bent.
Recently the Catholic Church bestowed great honors on Karl Hapsburg who -- unlike our current crop of so-called Christian leadership -- did not separate his faith from his "public actions" but kept them in perfect concert.
That's all that's lacking, CP. Men of principle unafraid to act by their principles. Toward that end, I enjoy this bit from "The State and the Soul":
Politics are intended to be the means of realising ethical principles. Such, anyway, was the original plan. Politics are meant to open the door to what theology and philosophy decide upon as a code of right behaviour. "This is the good life," says the thinker; "it leads to happiness and to God." "Very well," says the politician, "we must adopt it and extend it for the benefit of all." The assumption here is that the thinker is a Christian moralist, and the politician is an honest man. It is a bold assumption.
There's just no point in voting for folks based on their "personal convictions" when the name of the game (thanks largely to the CATHOLIC Kennedy's campaign mantra and the work of those CATHOLICS whose attended Hesburgh's Interlock-funded consciousness raising sessions at Notre Dame in the 60s), the maxim of the so-called conservative politician is: I'm personally, opposed, but ...
You and me, both, CP ... I can't wait until the election's over!! =)
*****a lot of supposed Catholics really don't know what to think any more. You can blame the bishops (and yes, the pope) for their various confusing and ambivalent statements over the last 34 years.*****
And the reason the supposed Catholics are not reading the Catechism of the Catholic Church is ? ? ?
*****After this damn election I hope we can find mutual Pro-Life topics to discuss. *****
If those who have posted here mean what they say, then YES, FReepers must find mutual Pro-Life topics to discuss AND to forward to our Federal (and State) Legislatures, President and Governors.
We're talking about it now when there's so little time to actually DO something about pro-abortion/death legislation.
Let's agree to meet here after the election (and we've settled down) to do some MAJOR discussing and talking about what we can do individually and as a group with regards to lobbying for life (and against abortion).
Thanks to everyone who has shared and those who have done a whale of research!
Great. Thanks.
Also I wanted to thank you for posting the McHugh chronicles back in 99-2000, and opening that door to me. Mrs. Engel is a true champion and should be in the front of the Movement. I suppose the politics within and the weasels who don't like to rock the boat have marginalized her into great obscurity, as she seems unknown to most lifers.
A question for ya'
Can you recommend any other books or sources related to the McHugh Chronicles or anything that exposes what was going on behind the scenes like Engel does?
Also, so you know: I can pull up: A Eugenics Primer http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3840573f5cda.htm
But not: Population Control: The Final Solution (Part 1 of 3) http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3926ba0b3bfa.htm Though 2 and 3 come up.
Can't get this on either! THE HATCH DEBACLE -- How the Human Life Bill of Hyde and Helms was Killed http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3856ea771cb1.htm
I find that hitting the f-5 key a couple times will sometimes make a stubborn Ancient post come up anyway.
if it doesn't work, let me know and I'll see if I have them archived myself. (likely)
Wow ... I thought I had a cache.
Give some thought to what it would take to weasel a CD out of you ... =)
It's over 2 gigs. Lots of past versions of the websites and junk. I could clear a lot and get on 2 Discs.
All it would take is if you would be so kind as to do a very serious critique of a Pro-Life document and offer ideas and feedback.
You got it.
(I'm at your disposal anytime ... disk or no disk. Anything I can do to help.)
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