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To: dalight
O'Neil should have asked Koppel if he thought/was charging that Kerry lied to his Biography?

Sounds good but it's a Koppel trap. Koppel would start talking about the different perspective of this new group of folks and that would be his opening to plant in his audiences' mind "maybe things were more complicated, had different perspectives" and that would leave O'Neill looking like he asked a question that he was willing to score points on either way Koppel answered which would plant the idea that O'Neill was out to score points against Kerry rather than paint a picture of what actually happened.

124 posted on 10/14/2004 10:25:49 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: Jim_Curtis
Koppel in his report overlooks the point that where Kerry was at the time of the shooting incident that there was only one VC. The Nightline Report said that the area was overgrown with mangrove and the whole action ranged the length of the canal(we are not told how long the canal was.

It is entirely possible that the people there shooting up the place are not aware of the true numbers of the other side. The place is overgrown, the VC hide very well and there is the general confusion of the shooting.

There are different specific locations of the action and while one part may have many VC, others may have less or even individuals. Because the area is so overgrown and there is a lot of fire from the Swiftboats, Nobody has a crystal clear view of what exactly is happening other than in their area. The after action reports and recollections relied on by Kerry, the Swiftboat Vets and others are entirely from the American point of view. Obviously they could not interview the VC as to their troop dispositions and perceptions at the time and what they say now is largely irrelevant to what went on in the awarding of the medal. Were most of these VC fighting or actually hiding? There was a lot of firepower comming at them fast and ducking in the bunker was a good idea. Several of the VC said they were doing that.

There is no way to know how exactly the citation including the "superior enemy force" was arrived at, or if that language was simply boilerplate added to make the citation look better. There were 3 versions of the citation. Why didn't Koppel ask about that?

137 posted on 10/14/2004 11:21:25 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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