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To: politicket

Sounds like a smoking gun that overshadows anything the Democrats have tried to throw against Bush's service record. It would also be quite instructive of why they tried so hard to tarnish Bush's record, when their candidate was a "genuine war hero". If Kerry had a BCD or DD, he'd have to be "toast" to a large part of the electorate during a time of war. They badly needed to innoculate Kerry against an "October surprise".
It's above the Bushie aristocratic sense of "fair play" for the Bush campaign to go after Kerry's service record on any basis (which makes charges by the left that Bush is behind the Swift Boat Vets all that more ludicrous). And, of course, not a single mainstream media organization, including Fox News with bring this up, or challege Kerry to sign his Form 180. If they had, we'd be long past the Vietnam war issue. This will be dismissed by the MSM as "all old news".

Of course Kerry's hiding his past. And, of course, his core 40% supporters know what he is, and they regard his pro-Communist treason during the Vietnam war as a real plus. Kerry is, in fact, the mainstream of the Democrat party, which today is just a bit to the political right of Lenin and Ho-Chi-Minh.

The fact that this is not blasting from a Drudge headline is about all you need to know about this story. It can't be news, because it'll never see the light of day beyond the New York Sun.

SFS


26 posted on 10/13/2004 1:17:17 AM PDT by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone

Drudge just missed it. Tomorrow AM is will be on his site, though maybe not the top headline.


29 posted on 10/13/2004 1:19:10 AM PDT by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
"It can't be news, because it'll never see the light of day beyond the New York Sun."

Sadly, I agree. Now, if someone somewhere has something solid to go on—say, if one of the Swiftvets can prove that Kerry was dishonorably discharged—then we might be in business. However, this article has all the hallmarks of a reporter who's been chasing hard facts for months and finally given up and run with all he's got. There's no reason to believe this will scare out the proof the reporter failed to find over the summer.

Put it this way: If someone printed a story this flimsy regarding Bush, we'd fisk him to pieces and mock the bleeding remains. Which isn't to say I doubt this story at all—in fact, one of the legitimate questions about Kerry's alleged contacts with the North Vietnamese has been, "If that's true why wasn't he court-martialed?" But our believing a story, and Sally Soccer-Mom believing it enough to change her vote, are two very, very different things.

33 posted on 10/13/2004 1:20:52 AM PDT by Fabozz
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone; ClancyJ
Here is a link to Google News for Kerry's Navy Discharge

As of this post there are 39 hits

85 posted on 10/13/2004 2:50:50 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry plans to graff post-Vietnam policy on Iraq: Cut funding and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
Kerry is, in fact, the mainstream of the Democrat party, which today is just a bit to the political right of Lenin and Ho-Chi-Minh. Don't you mean "left"
88 posted on 10/13/2004 3:02:13 AM PDT by leadhead
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone

What is a BCD?


113 posted on 10/13/2004 3:55:40 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
It would also be quite instructive of why they tried so hard to tarnish Bush's record

Bingo

171 posted on 10/13/2004 5:16:28 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone

"Of course Kerry's hiding his past. And, of course, his core 40% supporters know what he is, and they regard his pro-Communist treason during the Vietnam war as a real plus. Kerry is, in fact, the mainstream of the Democrat party, which today is just a bit to the political right of Lenin and Ho-Chi-Minh."

The choice for 94 BUSH CHENEY or HURRY REDWARDS


486 posted on 10/13/2004 11:44:43 AM PDT by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone

The second this was reported in the NYSun, it became Old News...


505 posted on 10/13/2004 3:29:53 PM PDT by SisBoombah (a)
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