[flashbunny]

no, I'm not. I know what libertarians believe - I hold some of the same beliefs.

Here's an analogies for you: The masters. Smoking bans in bars. Libertarians trying to get into a private event via the the court system.

The commission is a private organization. Not public. It's made up of the two parties. There is not constitutional authority that can give a private party the right to force their way into the debate. The debate is being held with privately raised funds as well.

This is almost as pathetic as the constitution party candidate saying he'll ban all abortions with an executive order that re-inteprets the 5th amendment.

The Libertarin party is once again reminding me why I don't call my self a libertarian. They're sadly little more than a joke.

[z3n]

"The Libertarin party is once again reminding me why I don't call my self a libertarian. They're sadly little more than a joke"

I smell fear. Seriously. Where does this kind of attack come from? Both parties fear the libertarian party far more than they do any of the others, including those who have had some limited success in the past (reform, green).

[Flux Capacitor]

----The Libertarin party is once again reminding me why I don't call my self a libertarian. They're sadly little more than a joke.----

Michael Badnarik guested on the Art Bell show this past weekend. Listening to him whine his way through a plea to be put into a debate hall with Bush and Kerry, three questions kept running through my mind:

1. Why should a presidential candidate now polling at around 1% on a good day be debating candidates with actual bases of support?

2. Coupled with this, why does a political party that, in 35 years of existence, has never managed to elect to national office so much as a CONGRESSMAN have any claim to a place at the presidential-debate table?

3. Why does Badnarik even care that he's not included in the debates, since John F'n Kerry is doing a fine job articulating his cut-and-run strategy on the War on Terror for him?

With what they're pulling now, I'm even less impressed with the Libertarians than I have been in the last couple of cycles. I'm libertarian in very many ways, but I want nothing to do with that party.

-Dan

[Arkansawyer]

The biggest joke is that you think there is a difference in the Republican or Democrat parties.I can't tell them apart anymore except by their rhetoric. There actions in governing appear to be the same.