Posted on 10/11/2004 1:14:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
Absolutely not.
Well, there might be a good amount of state law involved, but I'm not a corporate lawyer. It is likely that the corporation's articles-of-incorporation (mandated by the state) have regulations about the process. The corporation's by-laws, in turn, can further regulate the process.
All dealt with sans nanny government involvement.
Right. Good examples. A lot of people died.
However, things have also changed:
A)Untold millions of people now flying global, country to country. The world is simply more mobile.
B)Our supply chain for food is now infinitely more complex and international to a much greater degree.
C)We are consuming more products from an ever increasing number of sources.
Also note, the FDA was strengthened significantly in the late 1930s after Massengill marketed an over the counter sulfa drug that had the unpleasant side effectof killing people. Today you see the same thing with Tylenol -- the company has been fighting the FDA idea of warning labels for years. You see, if you take Tylenol after drinking you could very well blow out your liver. People die every year from mixing Tylenol with liquor.
I recognize that corporations can operate in a manner that is detrimental to the state and people, e.g. the technology transfer to China under Clinton. The state has authority to defend society in those circumstances. The problem, I would argue, is not in corporate governance structures but in the sad politicians we sometimes elect.
Durasell“There was a booming economy. Age expectancy was lower. And industry wasn't playing around with as many toxins.
As for healthcare -- even discounting what happened in 1918, we're dealing with some nasty bugs now, HepA to HepZ, etc. Do you want the guy making your salad in the kitchen not to have access to an emergency room?”
How is this not an arguement for socialism again?
I don't argue for socialism, which doesn't work. On the other hand, we've seen what happens when we enter Herbert Spencer-land -- see: The London Poor, Henry Mayhew.
Let's not muddy the waters with bringing Spencer into it. Do you or do you not advocate socialistic government controlled program because people can't take care of themselves? Is it your theory that our mordern life has become so complex that we need "a villiage" to raise our children, take care of our retirement, our health care, and our safety among other things?
There should be a government program to madate my use of the spell button.
I absolutely do not advocate a socialist style government. However, I do feel there are certain functions, such as police, fire fighters, etc. that government is better at providing.
I'm not sure that either function is "better" served by government though. There are many cases of very successful privately run "police" and firefighters. Generally speaking I think any function is run better by a person who has the greatest motivation to succeed. The greatest motivators in business are profit and love of the job.
Depends on the environment. In the large city where there is a need for specialized equipment and training, then you need a government entity to help finance and maintain it. If you are talking about a small town police or fire department, then volunteers would probably work fine.
This is irresponsible nominalization - rhetoric not uncommon in today's MSM, by the way, e.g.: "...some say [followed by some baseless slander]" Get it out of the closet; be a man. WHO, exactly is saying this? Do "they" have any credibility?
Ahh, to be young and naive again.
And that is the way it should be.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
Only individuals have God-given inalienable rights. And it is through our representative Government that We the People grant permission for the formation of corporations. In doing so, we extend the privilege of limited personal liability to individual investors with the expectation that the promotion of commerce will benefit the general welfare.
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.When corporate power corruptly influences Government such that policy no longer reflects nor benefits We the People, we have the inalienable right to exert our sovereignty as a free People.
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."
~Abraham Lincoln's First Annual Message to Congress, December 3, 1861.
The large transnational corporations are in violation of these principles which define the relationship between business interests and our citizenry. They corruptly influence government policy for their own benefit, and to the detriment of our general welfare and national security. It is our sovereign right as citizens to impose whatever means are necessary to alter this situation and defend our individual liberties.
Capitalists assume the risks of competing in a competitive free market, and are rewarded only if they are successful in their endeavors.
Corporatists are risk averse, they utilize their economic/political influence to reduce and eliminate the risk associated with competing in a competitive market.
Are you saying that a survival is a measure of success? You can as well ask, "how is it possible" that Russians or Kambodians "managed to survive" the Gulag and Pol Pot?
You must be desperate to use such argument.
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