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1 posted on 10/09/2004 10:21:02 PM PDT by CJHughes
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"There was the Republican candidate. You knew he generally stood for lower taxes, less government spending, giving fewer powers to the government, lower deficits and a zealous regard for individual privacy."

What Republican candidate was that? Family breaking social programs were created and funded during the 1980s, and the divorce rate soared. O'Connor was also appointed to the Supreme Court in the name of feminism in the '80s, IIRC, and wasn't she pro-abortion?

President Bush has the best plan for cutting social engineering programs. That is to force several administrations to cut them instead of only one Administration trying to do it all. If they can't be paid for in the future, they'll have to be cut.

Please give us more defense spending and more tax cuts, Mr. President! And may Greenspan lower the rate again.
64 posted on 10/09/2004 11:46:16 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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Bob Barr? The name sounds familiar. Didn't he used to be someone important?


67 posted on 10/10/2004 12:02:31 AM PDT by Hugin
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I can say it more briefly:

Runaway non-defense spending.
The islam is a religion of peace thing and consequent resulting paralysis.
The southern border-is-no-biggie thing. Or the other idiocy: The problem is now so big it's too late to fix it.

71 posted on 10/10/2004 12:27:43 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I, also, don't do diplomacy.)
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It's not all that agonizing to me. John Kerry is a coward who deserted his men under fire (referring to the three manufactured purple hearts and you go home free farce) and then when he got home he betrayed his comrades in arms whom he left behind and betrayed his entire country by offering aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime. That alone should disqualify Kerry from any consideration whatsoever as a viable choice for the presidency. Bob Barr should count that pretty high as a reason to oppose John Kerry as I know Barr is a communism fighter himself.

Next, John Kerry is the second most liberal senator (behind Ted Kennedy) in the US Senate. As Barr is a liberal fighter bar-none, that too ought to make the choice a bit easier.

And last I looked, Bob Barr is pro-life Christian. How in the world a pro-life Christian conservative could allow the likes of John Kerry to ascend to the presidency is a mystery to me. Bob should be ashamed for even hinting such an abomination should be allowed to happen (the idea of a Libertarian being elected to the presidency in November is outrageous!). No need to kid anyone, it's either the pro-life Bush or the pro-abortion Kerry. Barring devine intervention, there are no other outcomes possible.

Then there's the judiciary. Again, Bob Barr knows exactly what kind of judges a President Kerry would appoint and the damage they will do to our nation. Pure 100% US Liberal Government approved liberal activist judges for as far as the eye can see and beyond. President Kerry will set conservatism back 40 years or more as far as the judiciary is concerned. The conservative choice is obvious.

Then there's global warming and the Kyoto Treaty, and all the junk science liberal crap, etc., that would bankrupt America. Bush told them to shove it. What would Kerry do? Again, obvious.

Then there's the United Nations. Again, Bush told them to shove it. What would Kerry do? Obvious.

And the World Court? In fact, Kerry would take every opportunity to make sure we lose our national sovereignty and become a dues paying member of world government. The Constitution be damned. Barr of all people should know that these international treaties will have the full force and effect of the Constitution, in fact, will legally supersede much of it. Defend the Constitution. Reelect Bush!

How about the second amendment? Bush defends it. Kerry and the liberals? Right.

And the war? Ok, so Barr, like most of us, doesn't like the Patriot Act, and doesn't like the lack of attention being paid to our borders. Well, again, what would president Kerry do to improve the situation? Number one, he'd do all he possibly could to turn the war over to the UN and the middle east over to the barbarians we're fighting. Everything we've done over there and here at home will have been for naught. You think it's hell over there now? Wait until the US pulls out before the job is done. Not only that, but I guarantee you terrorism will not stay over there. They can't wait until a President Kerry loosens up our defenses and welcomes terrorism to our cities and homes. At least we know President Bush is committed to winning the war and defending the nation. Other than that, Kerry isn't going to do anything whatsoever about the Mexican illegals coming across our borders -- other than possibly opening them up even more.

Then there's the little things like wiping out our national defenses and security, raising our taxes, socializing our health care, expanding government control, etc, etc, etc, and all the thousands of other not-so-little things that the liberal John Kerry will do for us.

Agonizing choice? Not hardly!

Just say no to the liberals and Marxists! John Kerry must not be allowed to take the presidency!

I can't see any reason whatsoever to abandon all hope and turn the government back over to the liberals. We've worked too hard and come too far to surrender in spite. The spending can be controlled. The Patriot Act can be tamed. The CFR can be repealed. The borders can be tightened. Reelect President Bush and allow him to appoint judges that will uphold the constitution rather than legislate from the bench and much of the damage that is so repugnant to we conservatives can be reversed.

But what can't be so easily reversed will be the serious damage to our national security, our national sovereignty, our freedom and liberty, and the damage to the entire free world that will transpire if we allow John Kerry and the liberals to take charge of our government.

The time is for choosing and the choice is always obvious. The choice is freedom.



And that brings us to the optimism and wisdom of Ronald Reagan:

A Time For Choosing

I am going to talk of controversial things. I make no apology for this.

It's time we asked ourselves if we still know the freedoms intended for us by the Founding Fathers. James Madison said, "We base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self government."

This idea that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power is still the newest, most unique idea in all the long history of man's relation to man. This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.

You and I are told we must choose between a left and right, but I suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down. Up to man's age-old dream-the maximum of individual freedom consistent with order or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. Regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would sacrifice freedom for security have embarked on this downward path. Plutarch warned, "The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits."

The Founding Fathers knew a government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they knew when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. So we have come to a time for choosing.

Public servants say, always with the best of intentions, "What greater service we could render if only we had a little more money and a little more power." But the truth is that outside of its legitimate function, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector.

Yet any time you and I question the schemes of the do-gooders, we're denounced as being opposed to their humanitarian goals. It seems impossible to legitimately debate their solutions with the assumption that all of us share the desire to help the less fortunate. They tell us we're always "against," never "for" anything.

We are for a provision that destitution should not follow unemployment by reason of old age, and to that end we have accepted Social Security as a step toward meeting the problem. However, we are against those entrusted with this program when they practice deception regarding its fiscal shortcomings, when they charge that any criticism of the program means that we want to end payments....

We are for aiding our allies by sharing our material blessings with nations which share our fundamental beliefs, but we are against doling out money government to government, creating bureaucracy, if not socialism, all over the world.

We need true tax reform that will at least make a start toward restoring for our children the American Dream that wealth is denied to no one, that each individual has the right to fly as high as his strength and ability will take him.... But we can not have such reform while our tax policy is engineered by people who view the tax as a means of achieving changes in our social structure....

Have we the courage and the will to face up to the immorality and discrimination of the progressive tax, and demand a return to traditional proportionate taxation? . . . Today in our country the tax collector's share is 37 cents of -very dollar earned. Freedom has never been so fragile, so close to slipping from our grasp.

Are you willing to spend time studying the issues, making yourself aware, and then conveying that information to family and friends? Will you resist the temptation to get a government handout for your community? Realize that the doctor's fight against socialized medicine is your fight. We can't socialize the doctors without socializing the patients. Recognize that government invasion of public power is eventually an assault upon your own business. If some among you fear taking a stand because you are afraid of reprisals from customers, clients, or even government, recognize that you are just feeding the crocodile hoping he'll eat you last.

If all of this seems like a great deal of trouble, think what's at stake. We are faced with the most evil enemy mankind has known in his long climb from the swamp to the stars. There can be no security anywhere in the free world if there is no fiscal and economic stability within the United States. Those who ask us to trade our freedom for the soup kitchen of the welfare state are architects of a policy of accommodation.

They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong. There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right. Winston Churchill said that "the destiny of man is not measured by material computation. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits-not animals." And he said, "There is something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty."

You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done.

73 posted on 10/10/2004 12:33:15 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Any so called conservative who does not vote for Bush because of their pet issue, or issues and helps elect that communist traitor Kerry is not paying attention. Yes, I know you are against the president, but before you vote you should really search your heart and mind and really understand that there is so much more at stake here than just fiscal/ social issues. You know what I mean. This is a different world.


79 posted on 10/10/2004 1:13:51 AM PDT by ladyinred (The simple lie always conquers the more complex truth. (propaganda))
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Yeah mister ACLU lawyer...like I am ever going to listen to ANYTHING you have to say about ANYTHING ever again....What a classic jerk..If he can't figure out who to vote for then it is a good thing he ain't in Congress anymore...now if we could get rid of Lugar, et al


81 posted on 10/10/2004 1:18:35 AM PDT by jnarcus
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Amen Mr. Barr.


88 posted on 10/10/2004 1:31:46 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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Account banned/suspended Bump.

92 posted on 10/10/2004 1:53:12 AM PDT by 80skid
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A small-picture, small thinking idiot.


96 posted on 10/10/2004 3:24:20 AM PDT by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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Bob Barr is an asshole. Aside from the fact that he ignores the islamofasicsts, he decries Bushs handling of illegal immigration, which is fair, but then goes on to entertain the idea of voting for the lunatic Libertarian whose party platform is open borders.

Barr is just as stupid as Don Imus and thats going some.

114 posted on 10/11/2004 8:48:16 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Always ask yourself, does this pass the Global Test?)
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So Mr. Barr, vote for Kerry, turn Saddam loose, and wait for the terrorists to knock on your door. And while you and your disenchanted, purified conservatives sulk, watch your Kerry president appoint socialist Supreme Court Justices. You disappoint me because I had respected you in the past and took you for a fighter, not a whiner.
115 posted on 10/11/2004 8:59:37 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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