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An Agonizing Choice
Creative Loafing Atlanta ^ | October 7, 2004 | Bob Barr

Posted on 10/09/2004 10:21:02 PM PDT by CJHughes

An agonizing choice

Conservatives have plenty of cause to abandon Bush

BY BOB BARR

Voting for president used to be so easy, at least for a conservative. There was the Republican candidate. You knew he generally stood for lower taxes, less government spending, giving fewer powers to the government, lower deficits and a zealous regard for individual privacy.

Then, there was the Democrat. You knew he generally stood for higher taxes, more government and deficit spending, and a zealous regard for civil liberties.

Throughout my own presidential voting history, the choices have rarely, if ever, been agonizing. Nixon vs. McGovern? Carter vs. Reagan? Reagan-Mondale? Dukakis, a Massachusetts liberal? Clinton? Al Gore? Ah, the good ol' days. Each of those races presented clear choices, easily resolved.

Now we have the election of 2004. For the first time in my voting life, the choice in the race for president isn't so clear And, among true conservatives, I'm not alone.

What's making the contest so difficult? It's certainly not that both candidates are so conservative that we have a choice of riches. It's not even that John Kerry is sort of right wing compared to George W. Bush. The incumbent clearly is the more "conservative" of the two.

But the concerns for many conservative voters -- concerns that may cause them not to vote for Mr. Bush on Nov. 2 -- fall generally into three categories: fiscal, physical (as in the physical security of our nation) and freedom (as in protecting our civil liberties).

When Bush became president Jan. 20, 2001, he inherited an enviable fiscal situation. Congress, then controlled by his own party, had -- through discipline and tough votes -- whittled down decades of deficit spending under presidents of both parties, so that annual deficits of hundreds of billions of dollars had been transformed to a series of real and projected surpluses. The heavy lifting had been done. All Bush had to do was resist the urge to spend, and he had to exert some pressure on Congress to resist its natural impulses to do the same. Had he done that, he might have gone down in history as the most fiscally conservative president in modern times.

Instead, what we got were record levels of new spending, including nearly double-digit increases in nondefense discretionary spending. We now have deficits exceeding those that the first Republican-controlled Congress in 40 years faced when it convened in January 1995.

The oft-repeated mantra that "the terrorists made us spend more" rings hollow, especially to those who actually understand that increases in nondefense discretionary spending are not the inevitable result of fighting terrorists. It also irritates many conservatives, whether or not they support the war in Iraq, that so much of defense spending is being poured into the black hole of Iraq's internal security, while the security of our own borders goes wanting.

That brings us to the second major beef conservatives have with the president. He's seen as failing to take real steps to improve our border security. In many respects, because of his apparent desire to appease his compadre to the south -- Mexican President Vincente Fox -- Bush has made matters worse. More people are entering our country illegally than ever before, more than 3 million this year alone -- and most of them are stampeding across from Mexico.

It seems as if every time an effort is made to implement measures that would crack down on illegal immigration, Fox complains, and the White House tells our enforcement folks to back off. Perhaps that is why intelligence reports indicate al-Qaeda is actively recruiting in Central America.

At the same time, here at home, many law-abiding citizens accurately perceive that their own freedoms and civil liberties are being stripped. They are being profiled by government computers whenever they want to travel, their bank accounts are being summarily closed because they may fit some "profile," they are under surveillance by cameras paid for by that borrowed federal money, and, if the administration has its way, they will be forced to carry a national identification card. That skewed sense of priorities really rankles conservatives.

Those are but three tips of the iceberg that signal the deep dissatisfaction many conservatives harbor against the president. Thus far, however, with Bush's political gurus telling him he's ahead and to just lay low and not make any major gaffes, he seems unwilling to recognize the problems on his right flank. Or he seems to have concluded that he doesn't need to address those concerns because the ineptitude of the Kerry campaign hasn't forced him to.

But the race appears to be tightening again. It's likely to remain tight until Election Day. Those dissatisfied conservative voters will become increasingly important, but it's going to be impossible for the president to pull them back in with hollow, last-minute promises.

Bush's problem is that true conservatives remember their history. They recall that in recent years when the nation enjoyed the fruits of actual conservative fiscal and security policies, a Democrat occupied the White House and Congress was controlled by a Republican majority that actually fought for a substantive conservative agenda.

History's a troublesome thing for presidents. Even though most voters don't take much of a historical perspective into the voting booth with them, true conservatives do.

Hmmm. Who's the Libertarian candidate again?

Lifelong Republican Bob Barr represented parts of Cobb County and northwest Georgia in Congress from 1995 to 2003.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; bobbarr; bush; howboutsomefreedom; hugegovernmentbush; opinion; spendspendspend; votelibertarian; zerovetos
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To: Deb; Torie

I believe Bob Barr is still bitter toward Bush and the RNC for not favoring him over John Linder in the hotly contested 2002 GA-07. Barr was very dishonest when he moved into John Linder's House district and claimed the district for himself. However, the voters of the Atlanta suburban-based district told him to get lost. The 2002 GOP primary results showed what real cosnervatives think fo Bob Barr.


101 posted on 10/10/2004 12:47:52 PM PDT by Kuksool (Get Your Souls To The Polls In November)
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To: CJHughes
Hmm. Far greater chance of big government attempting to take your property than some terrorist.

Hmm. So far, the terrorists have blown up my neighborhood -- *twice* -- and nearly killed me the second time, not to mention coming close to destroying my home. The gubmint -- big or otherwise -- has yet to do that to me.

The terrorists murdered friends and neighbors of mine, while the gubmint hasn't done so.

102 posted on 10/10/2004 6:16:37 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Here by the sea and sand, nothing ever goes as planned)
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To: CJHughes
Would that be the war on drugs, the war on poverty, the war on illiteracy, the war on high prescription drug costs, the war on privacy, the war on wealth, the war on high gas prices, or the war on terror? Only one of these is a war. The rest is politics.
103 posted on 10/10/2004 9:15:55 PM PDT by HollywoodRepublican (Not the only one, but it's really close.)
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To: Kuksool

Ahhhh, that must be it.


104 posted on 10/10/2004 9:16:41 PM PDT by Deb (A Democrat Stole My GREEN Sweater!!!)
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To: Helms; mabelkitty; hobson
But the concerns for many conservative voters -- concerns that may cause them not to vote for Mr. Bush on Nov. 2 --

Here we go again with the "real conservatives," i.e., the religious right, threatening to sit hom.

Here's a clue for them: Karl Rove doesn't count them as "likely voters" since 2000.

105 posted on 10/10/2004 9:36:54 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Howlin
Maybe Barr is starved for attention and can't get another life.

The Media has created many Monsters (Mc Cain comes to mind)and celebrities.

106 posted on 10/10/2004 9:52:56 PM PDT by Helms (nu-ance : [ from KERRY French, from nuer, to Shade the Truth via Language and Subvert Reality])
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To: Restorer

The economy he inherited was.....well as Rush put it when it seemed to be hitting on all cylinders.......was a result of the republicans taking over congress. It's only when the wheels fell off that it again became Clinton's faltering economy.


107 posted on 10/11/2004 4:02:45 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Laptop_Ron

"Being blown up bugs me..."

Yup. National security trumps everything else. We don't know what our enemies have in store for us. What we DO know is that President Bush has done alot to improve our national security and he will kick butt if they hit us again. Kerry has shown that he will not fight for ANYTHING. He will be too worried about what the rest of the world would think of him.


108 posted on 10/11/2004 4:11:39 AM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Hold on to your hats.....it's going to be a bumpy night")
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To: Howlin

Barr went to work for the ACLU.
He is hardly in a respectable position to represent anybody Conservative.
If he thinks he has clout with his Congressional carrer, he should know that most remember he moved from his district to cannabalize another Republican because he thought it was an easier district to win.
He's still pouting.


110 posted on 10/11/2004 11:07:30 AM PDT by mabelkitty (W is the Peoples' President ; Kerry is the Elite Establishment's President)
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To: Deb; hchutch
Bob Barr has become a puzzle. Why come out three weeks before an unbelievably tight election and throw sand in the president's face?

He's employed by the American Criminal Liberties Union. 'Nuff said...

111 posted on 10/11/2004 11:09:53 AM PDT by Poohbah (SKYBIRD SKYBIRD DO NOT ANSWER...SKYBIRD SKYBIRD DO NOT ANSWER)
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To: Poohbah

So is Dick Armey and he hasn't gone crazy.


112 posted on 10/11/2004 7:55:56 PM PDT by Deb (A Democrat Stole My GREEN Sweater!!!)
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To: Deb

Bob Barr led me to FR many moons ago. That being said; he needs a makeover desperately. He looks like an alien and creeps me out.


btw, do we have a number 6 tonight?


113 posted on 10/11/2004 8:40:33 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: CJHughes
Bob Barr is an asshole. Aside from the fact that he ignores the islamofasicsts, he decries Bushs handling of illegal immigration, which is fair, but then goes on to entertain the idea of voting for the lunatic Libertarian whose party platform is open borders.

Barr is just as stupid as Don Imus and thats going some.

114 posted on 10/11/2004 8:48:16 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Always ask yourself, does this pass the Global Test?)
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To: CJHughes
So Mr. Barr, vote for Kerry, turn Saddam loose, and wait for the terrorists to knock on your door. And while you and your disenchanted, purified conservatives sulk, watch your Kerry president appoint socialist Supreme Court Justices. You disappoint me because I had respected you in the past and took you for a fighter, not a whiner.
115 posted on 10/11/2004 8:59:37 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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To: bonfire

Thumbs up!


116 posted on 10/11/2004 9:04:54 PM PDT by Deb (A Democrat Stole My GREEN Sweater!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Good comment. Very good. And 100% on target!


117 posted on 10/11/2004 9:11:43 PM PDT by auboy (If you favor works over words, vote Bush-Cheney 2004.)
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To: HollywoodRepublican
"....real-life conservatives wknow that this election is about the war,and it isn't about anything else."

You are not necessarily right. Several of my friends and I are very much "real conservatives" who are also very opposed to the war in Iraq. Of the five of us,three are Cathlics. Three will definitely vote for Bush,one is undecided and one will probably vote for the Conservative party candidate.

None of us would consider voting for Kerry, he presents with all of the charm and appeal of a trained zombie and he lies without missing a beat. Kerry also is deeply entrenched in the Culture of Death,Bush is not. There are many others out there who believe as we do and will vote to reflect that belief.

118 posted on 10/11/2004 9:37:06 PM PDT by saradippity
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