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To: holymoly

I just thought we were above these kinds of things. The fact is, the truth about Kerry's service should have been addressed long ago. Stolen Valor should have been aired long ago. It just feels like a cheap shot. Something that CBS would do.


56 posted on 10/09/2004 5:23:42 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude; killjoy

"I just thought we were above these kinds of things."


Above WHAT things, telling the truth?

You think it's OK for Kerry, Moore, Soros spend hundreds of millions to LIE to the American people, but it's not OK for Republicans to point out the truth?


You and "killjoy" sound just like the Democrats who were screaming about the TRUE SwiftVets ads, after MoveOn and Soros has spent multi millions bashing Bush with lies, and are continuing to do so.

Are you sure you are on the right website?


61 posted on 10/09/2004 5:27:42 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: AmishDude
I just thought we were above these kinds of things.

Sadly, we must play the game on the same field. Imagine if MoveOn.org were the only 527.

The fact is, the truth about Kerry's service should have been addressed long ago.

I agree. But we cannot trust the Leftist media to do the things it should. ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS (and others) are nothing more than the propaganda arm of the DNC.

Stolen Valor should have been aired long ago.

I don't know when it was produced, so can't comment on that.

It just feels like a cheap shot. Something that CBS would do.

Nah. If CBS did it, it would be 100% fraudulent, and based on "documents" written in crayon.
66 posted on 10/09/2004 5:33:57 PM PDT by holymoly ("A lot" is TWO words.)
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To: AmishDude

"Stolen Valor should have been aired long ago. It just feels like a cheap shot. Something that CBS would do."

Don't you dare compare Stolen Honor to CBS!!!!

Read and get educated!!!!


http://www.nopunditintended.com/?q=Letter-From-MOH-Recipient-Col-Bud-Day

Dear Joe: The major issue in the Swiftboat stories is, and always has been, what John Kerry did in 1971 after he returned from Vietnam.

Kerry cast a long dark shadow over all Vietnam Veterans with his outright perjury before the Senate concerning atrocities in Vietnam. His stories to the Senate committee were absolute lies.. fabrications.. perjury.. fantasies, with NO substance. That dark shadow has defamed the entire Vietnam War veteran population, and gave "Aid and Comfort" to our enemies..the Vietnamese Communists. Kerry's stories were outright fabrications, and were intended for political gain with the radical left..McGovern, Teddy and Bobby Kennedy followers, Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, and the radical left who fantasized that George McGovern was going to be elected in 1972. Little wonder that returning soldiers from Vietnam were spit upon and castigated as "baby killers". A returned war hero said so.

Kerry cut a dashing figure as a war hero, lots of medals, and returned home because of multiple war wounds..even a silver star. His Senate testimony confirmed what every hippie had been chanting on the streets.."Hey hey LBJ..How many kids did you kill today"????? He obviously was running for political office in 1971.

Until Lt. John O' Neil, himself a Swifboat commander, spoke out before the 1972 elections against Kerry's outright deceptions, there was no one from the Swiftboat scene that could contradict Kerry's self serving lies.

I was a POW of the Vietnamese in Hanoi in 1971, and I am aware that the testimony of John Kerry, the actions of Jane Fonda and Tom Hayden, and the radical left; all caused the commies to conclude that if they hung on..they would win. North Vietnamese General Bui Tin commented that every day the Communist leadership listened to world news over the radio to follow the growth of the anti-war movement. Visits to Hanoi by Jane Fonda and Ramsey Clark gave them confidence to hold in the face of battlefield reverses. The guts of it was that propaganda from the anti-war group was part of their combat strategy.

While the Commies were hanging on, innumerable U.S. Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Air Foce members were being killed in combat. Every battle wound to Americans after Kerry's misdirected testimony is related to Kerry's untruthfulness. John Kerry contributed to every one of these deaths with his lies about U.S. atrocities in Vietnam. He likewise defamed the U.S. with our allies and supporters.
His conduct also extended the imprisonment of the Vietnam Prisoners of War, of which I was one. I am certain of at least one POW death after his testimony, which might have been prevented with an earlier release of the POWs.

My friend and room mate Senator John S. McCain denounced the Swiftboat video by John O'Neil. I have a different take on the Swiftboat tape and disagree with my good friend John.
John Kerry opened up his character as a war hero reporting for duty to the country with a hand salute...and his band of brothers..of which he was the chief hero. Most of his convention speech was about John Kerry..Vietnam hero, and his band of brothers. John Kerry's character is not only fair game, it is the primary issue. He wants to use Bill Clinton's "is", as an answer to his lack of character.

The issue is trust. Can anyone trust John Kerry?? "Never lie, cheat or steal" is the West Point motto. When a witness perjures himself at trial, the judge notes that his testimony lacks crediblity. Should we elect a known proven liar to lead us in wartime??

I draw a direct comparison of General Benedict Arnold of the Revolutionary War, to Lieutenant John Kerry. Both went off to war, fought, and then turned against their country. General Arnold crossed over to the British for money and position. John Kerry crossed over to the Vietnamese with his assistance to the anti-war movement, and his direct liason with the Vietnamese diplomats in Paris. His reward. Political gain. Senator..United States.

His record as a Senator for twenty years has been pitiful. Conjure up, if you will, one major bill that he has sponsored.
John Kerry for President? Ridiculous. Unthinkable. Unbelievable. Outrageous.

Col. Geo. "Bud" Day Medal of Honor Vietnam POW 1967-1973 USMC- USA- USA Attorney 1949-2004


68 posted on 10/09/2004 5:36:49 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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To: AmishDude; killjoy

You'd better understand if you realized that
Viet Nam Vets has been smeared for 35 + years.

Now it's payback time.


104 posted on 10/09/2004 6:19:23 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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To: AmishDude
It just feels like a cheap shot. Something that CBS would do.

Believe me, if CBS had something this DAMAGING and TRUE (rare for CBS), they would do it!

117 posted on 10/09/2004 6:56:28 PM PDT by evad (The existence of Israel would not pass JF'nK's Global Test)
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To: AmishDude

Here's your cheap shot - this was aimed at us starting two years ago.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1240574/posts


143 posted on 10/09/2004 10:08:36 PM PDT by mabelkitty (W is the Peoples' President ; Kerry is the Elite Establishment's President)
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