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To: conservaDave

I'm with Joe Queenan when he says that there's no such thing as a "die-hard Yankee fan." Why? Because you've never had to die. OK, you lost the 2001 and 2003 World Series (and didn't even make it in 2002), but George just went out and threw a few zillion dollars at some more All-Stars.

Try being a fan of the Red Sox, the White Sox, the Cubs, the Mets, the Phillies, the Brooklyn Dodgers, the Montreal Expos... THOSE fans have had to die.

But not Yankee fans. You cannot compare yourselves with the rest of us, so don't try.


17 posted on 10/08/2004 8:25:44 PM PDT by kellynch
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To: kellynch

Hmmm, if I remember the NY Mets spent nearly as much as the Boss have nothing to show for it. Also, bear in mind the Yankees were pretty much a laughingstock by 1989-1990. Took years to rebuild that franchise.

So, they're a dynasty (in terms of making the playoffs every year). Perhaps it has less to do with money and free agents as it does to do with Torre, a deep bench and excellent play by veterans such as Jeter and Posada.

The 1950s "rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for General Motors" is wearing rather thin and was pushed along by Dodgers fans--btw, I believe that myth of "dem Bums" needs to be laid to rest.

They may have lost to the Yankees all but once, but how dominating were they of the National League from 1947 to 1966? Particularly the Brooklyn years.

Actually, George is a lousy owner. The only reason why the Yankees exist as they are is because Fay Vincent kicked him out and professionals took over until he served his suspension. He's mellowed a lot since the old days. Still makes mistakes, like that pitching staff.

My Yankee bloodline goes back to my great-grandfather and the Highlanders and there are a helluva more like us throughout the country who can claim that.


20 posted on 10/08/2004 8:36:08 PM PDT by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: kellynch
I'm with Joe Queenan when he says that there's no such thing as a "die-hard Yankee fan." Why? Because you've never had to die. OK, you lost the 2001 and 2003 World Series (and didn't even make it in 2002), but George just went out and threw a few zillion dollars at some more All-Stars.

Joe Queenan is full of it. I grew up a Yankee fan when my team went 14 years between playoff appearances (1981-1995. Older Yankee fans than me went 12 years without playoff appearances (1964-76). That's something that's conveniently forgotten by Yankee-haters.

21 posted on 10/08/2004 8:43:13 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: kellynch
Try being a fan of the Red Sox, the White Sox, the Cubs, the Mets, the Phillies, the Brooklyn Dodgers, the Montreal Expos... THOSE fans have had to die. But not Yankee fans. You cannot compare yourselves with the rest of us, so don't try.

Again, do you even remember what the baseball world was like in the 80s? In New York, the Mets were the trendy team to root for, while the Yankees were out of it every year. You've frankly got some nerve accusing Yankee fans of not being real fans, when you are woefully unaware of how many dry spells the Yankees have had over the years.

22 posted on 10/08/2004 8:47:14 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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