[Darkwolf377]

"This was most elequent when Lurch outed himself as a flip-flopping Catholic on the abortion (stem cells) question. Bush handed Lurch his head on that question."

The first debate was a "loss" for Bush, but it gave him a huge strategery ;) victory in that Kerry further defined himself as being against bunkerbusters and for a Global SAT. As far as wins go, I bet Kerry would rather ahve had a do-over.

As you pointed out, though, Kerry's biggest wounds are self-inflicted, he just goes rambling on and ends up alienating SOMEONE when he gets on a verbal bender.

[Laurita]

Notice Kerry said he was "raised Catholic". Usually the implied continuation of that sentence is, "But I've gotten too smart to believe in God since then." Kerry doesn't believe in anything unless the UN tells him he can.