Posted on 10/08/2004 2:46:06 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker
Which one were you in?
DISCIPLINE. DEDICATION. DETERMINATION.
Learn it. Love it. Live it.
Kappa Alpha Psi, proudly making achievers in every field of human endeavor since 1911.
Yeah, I'm older now. But I still have that Nupe Pride.
Yeah, the official concern will last until the end of the semester. The old alumns will see to it that this gets handled quietly and that the good ol' frat life goes on. But not for this kid and his family.
One of the SGT's in my Army Reserve unit was a KAP. He was a hard-core soldier too.
Exactly right.
I have drawn on any number of my fraternity members. It was always best to draw on them then wake em up and take them out to the bars without telling them about the drawing. LOL
All these indignant do-gooders don't have a friggin clue and I'm sure they be pushed over the edge if they knew what we did during hell week.
The fact is, the guy ingested the alcohol voluntarily, they drew on him without knowing the seriousness of his condition.
I'm sorry for the family but there are dangers to most behaviors and the drawings had nothing to do with it. Get over yourselves already.
Yeah, I lean more your way. Probably many of these kids, being the naive fools they are, think they are under the safe watch of their "brothers" and nothing bad will happen. Reputation runs both ways and you would think one of the older members would "supervise" the pledges to be sure things did not get out of hand.
"Didn't get in did ya?"
Clearly wasn't even considered.
On a lighter note:
Once we infiltrated the fraternity house next door and left a turd in a Chilis to-go box in their refrigerator.
"What? Mine was not like that at all. It was ten weeks of hell.
At the end, let's just say that your feet literally burned as you crossed "the burning sands." "
Mine wasn't like that either. Don't even ask how we had to carry an olive and the consequences if we dropped it.
That bears watching over time and depends on what you call success. I'm sorry, I hate exclusive, snobby little cliques that have to disignate the "who's who and what's what and who's got what" crowd as somehow better than the man who picks up your garbage. I can tell you, I'd miss the man who picks up the garbage in this country a whale of a lot more than the likes of Edwards and his fraternity of ambulance chasers who have caused my (and your) health insurance to increase to gargantuan proportions.
Having said that, it's a free country. Free to value and try to join clubs, and free not to value and not to join such groups. There's good and bad in anything, and I'm sure some do worthwhile projects over the years.
Negative. Greek letter societies were founded as discussion societies. (You may have heard of the first one, Phi Beta Kappa.) Mine was founded to prevent hazing in a military school -- a bunch of students decided they knew what was best for the underclassmen and decided to enforce it, administration be damned. And it was founded long before the drinking age was set at 21.
All their "good works" could be covered in a 30-min meeting each month at the student union.
Again, negative. Depending on the university's requirements, Greek orgs may do hundreds or thousands of man-hours of community service. Real community service, walking door to door collecting food, building houses, that kind of stuff. That's not counting what fraternities do internally to better their members, or the benefits of a well-maintained house and active social program that non-members can freely benefit from.
Greek houses are there to allow kids to do stuff they be arrested for in a dorm or apartment.
Nope. Greek orgs have a complex set of rules to contend with -- federal, state, and municipal laws, university housing and Greek policies, national and local by-laws. They also pay extremely high insurance rates, so the vast majority tend to obey these rules. As opposed to college dorms, in which you can get away with anything as long as it doesn't personally bother the RA, and apartments, where anything goes as long as it doesn't bother a neighbor. (The real freaks are always in the dorms in my experience.) Living in a house also may be cheaper than university housing, more conducive than studying, and provides a better "home" than some low-rent apartment or dormitory cubicle.
Eventually, they'll be sued out of existence...
When that happens, they'll just go local, underground, and escape the oversight of the university. It's been done before, successfully, for years at a time.
It is to bad this thread went the direction of discussing Frats and all. This thread is about ALCOHOL!
Drinking TO MUCH is What killed this dear man. Not Frats, not college. DRINKING TO MUCH KILLED HIM.
You all go hang out and watch someone go through detox after drinking all their lives. Go hang out at an AA meeting and listen to all the stories about all the ruined lives from alcohol. Some folks start and cannot stop. It is not a joke. It kills them.
Forget the stupid frat discussion.
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