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To: jb6
"Really, how many, 100,000 to absorb all the lost IT positions?"

The article I read in ComputerWorld stated there was a market for approximately 225,000 IT Auditors. (With the offshoring of development, the need for IT Auditors has skyrocketed.)

"How about the 400,000 lost textiles positions with minimal education?"

Over what time period have these been lost? Textile positions have been moving overseas for a long time - this is nothing new. Nevertheless, these folks can 'retool' their skill sets as well, if they so choose.

"Apples and oranges made to deceive the masses."

The evolution of the U.S. economy is nothing new. As technology has advanced, and as global markets have opened up (that's not new either), some job markets have fallen away, while others have increased in size or new ones have been born. The problem comes in when people don't want to change along with the job market.

When they refuse to change, they only have themselves to blame.

155 posted on 10/05/2004 10:43:15 AM PDT by MEGoody (Flush the Johns - vote Bush/Cheney 04)
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To: MEGoody

We have a member here who regularly laments that kids in the U.S. no longer want to study Engineering. The highest-paying jobs in the U.S. after graduating from a four-year program? You got it . . . Engineering. Go figure.


157 posted on 10/05/2004 10:47:51 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: MEGoody; neutrino; ninenot; A. Pole
1. Nevertheless, these folks can 'retool' their skill sets as well, if they so choose.

Who again will pay for the retooling of the poor and the lower classes? And who will pay for them to eat and have a home while they "retool"?

2.When they refuse to change, they only have themselves to blame

That was what the British and French said as they bit into free trade in the late 1800s. They are now the super power industries that they are today thanks to that. Once England was the prime industrialized nation of the world: today shop keepers and importers and nothing much else.

The technology hasn't changed that much in manufacturing, the plants have simply moved out of the country. Nothing has come to replace them, not in manufacturing. But there is always the $7/hr jobs of Walmart and McDees, the positions that the illegals haven't grabbed up yet.

As for technology, don't worry, eventually the US will suffer what it suffered onto England, France, Germany and Soviet Union/Russia, brain drain. When the proportional pay is down and the opportunity is too, those with skills immigrate out. R&D is already leaving the US for India, so the new tech will be from there, as will be the industry producing it. The 30% drop in enrollment in tech should be a flash of reality, but I guess for to many it is not.

158 posted on 10/05/2004 10:51:34 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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