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Why You Need To Know The Scots-Irish
Parade Magazine ^ | October 3, 2004 | James Webb

Posted on 10/03/2004 10:04:28 AM PDT by LNewman

One of the most powerful cultural forces shaping America, they've produced great Presidents, soldiers, inventors, actors and writers. But, as a group, they've remained unvisible. The time has come to change that, says the author.

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The Scots-Irish are a fiercely independent, individualist people. It goes against their grain to think collectively. But, as America rushes forward into yet another redefinition of itself, the contributions of the Scots-Irish are too great to remain invisible. My culture needs to reclaim itself-stop letting others define, mock and even use it-and is so doing regain its power to shape the direction of America

Because our country needs us.

(Excerpt) Read more at parade.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; ancestry; genealogy; immigration; ireland; ridgerunners; scotchirish; scotland; scotsirish
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To: LNewman

Ever heard of Steeleye Span?

I love their song "Parcel of Rogues."

141 posted on 10/03/2004 8:56:52 PM PDT by Glenmerle
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To: WVNan

Not a member of a clan myself...I'm about as English as they come...


142 posted on 10/03/2004 9:01:11 PM PDT by Lurking2Long
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To: Glenmerle

I looked them up on amazon, I will look for their music.

It groups them with Fairport Convention so; a lot of this music I've only seen visuals for, but I will be on the look out for them.


143 posted on 10/03/2004 9:01:19 PM PDT by roadrunner96
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To: MikeinIraq
Scots-Irish here...reporting for duty.

Red

144 posted on 10/03/2004 9:03:21 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Mr. Kerry.....you disgust me.)
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To: LNewman

too late to read the responses ,but if not already mentioned , you all must get and read "the scottish enlightenment. the scots' invention of the modern world" no hyperbole in that title as you will see if you read.


145 posted on 10/03/2004 9:07:39 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: roadrunner96
I haven't heard anything recent from Steeleye Span, but not too long ago I bought two CDs of their (I think) 1970s albums Please to See the King (my favorite) and Below the Salt (with "Parcel of Rogues" on it). They may still be available.

But my favorite Scottish CDs are by a folk duo called the Corries (one of the two died some years back). You might enjoy their music too. One of their songs, "Flower of Scotland," is a sort of unofficial national anthem now.

146 posted on 10/03/2004 9:14:23 PM PDT by Glenmerle
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To: LNewman
George W. Bush

Hail to the President who's all Scot at heart

An oldie-but-goodie from the FR archives...

148 posted on 10/03/2004 9:25:30 PM PDT by Ryan Spock
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To: LNewman

Interesting, even though I'm "Green Irish" here.(Although I do have a slight trace of Scot as well)


149 posted on 10/03/2004 9:52:41 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Dead or alive, I got a .45 - and I never miss!!!" - AC/DC - Problem Child)
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To: LNewman

I don';t know how closely most of the respondents read the article but his description of the Scots-Irish character describes them displaying characteristics which I associate more with the term 'sheeple' than the independent thinkers that I generally find at the freerepublic web address.


150 posted on 10/04/2004 5:21:27 AM PDT by NHResident
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To: roadrunner96; Glenmerle

I have the "vinyl" on Parcel of Rogues and Below the Salt. Recently downloaded the track "Lay Down Your Weary Tune" ... a Bob Dylan song.


151 posted on 10/04/2004 10:49:16 AM PDT by LNewman
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To: LNewman
This latest book is one of a string of historical books all derived from the same source, which is David Hackett Fischer’s Albion’s Seed.

Albion’s Seed

152 posted on 10/04/2004 10:58:42 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
The concluding section of Albion's Seed explores the ways that regional cultures have continued to dominate national politics from 1789 to 1988, and still control attitudes toward education, government, gender, and violence, on which differences between American regions are greater than between European nations.

Interesting. Will pick it up when I pick up the Webb book. BTW, Born Fighting just came out on Oct. 1. The only bookstore (checked 3) that had received it, still had it in receiving on pallets and it wasn't on the floor yet.

Thanks!

153 posted on 10/04/2004 11:21:56 AM PDT by LNewman
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To: dennisw
Born Fighting shows that the Scots-Irish were 40 percent of the Revolutionary War army; they included the pioneers Daniel Boone,

I have a Boone line, though not traceable to THAT Boone. I run into a lot of Boone researchers without the Daniel connection, and we laughingly refer to each other as "cousin."

154 posted on 10/04/2004 12:10:50 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: LNewman

Scots-Irish-Welsh woman here!


155 posted on 10/04/2004 12:15:43 PM PDT by Wiser now (A bitter, sour old woman is the crowning work of the devil.)
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To: x
Western PA (my area) was settled by Scots-Irish pioneers in the 1700's. Once the Indian attacks stopped, more settlers poured into this area, to the three rivers of Pittsburgh, then sailed westward down the Ohio River.

Presbyterian ministers traveled on horseback to the various settlements, baptizing and marrying and preaching the Gospel, until the settlers built their own churches. A seminary was established in PA that educated young men to be ministers in the developing congregations.

156 posted on 10/04/2004 12:22:34 PM PDT by Ciexyz (At his first crisis, "President" Kerry will sail his Swiftboat to safety, then call Teddy.)
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To: LNewman

...Bill Monroe BUMP!!!!


157 posted on 10/04/2004 12:25:59 PM PDT by martin gibson
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To: VOA
IIRC, Will Rogers was from the part of the Cherokee tribe that was produced by inter-marriage of Cherokees with Scots-Irish settlers.

I think I'm dealing with that at home, but don't know of any of his folks that have researched their line.

158 posted on 10/04/2004 12:27:58 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: LNewman

Scots-Irish.... Thats me. Born and Raised in Glasgow.
Of Irish Parents.


159 posted on 10/04/2004 12:29:46 PM PDT by Milly (a Vietnam vets wife who is sick of Kerry)
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To: DugMac
Mother Irish, Father Scottish; both 6th generation Americans.

May I suggest that neither of your parents were either Scots or Irish. After 6 generations, it's long past time to give up that old-country nonsense.

I have taught my children that they, their parents, and their grandparents were all born and raised in the US. For them, one needs to go back to long dead ancestors to find anyone born in a foreign land. They are in fact, native Americans -- native by birth, by nationality, by culture and by the Grace of God. They are never to hyphenate their birth right.

Sorry to rant, but this hyphenated-American stuff gives me gas. It's the stuff of division.

160 posted on 10/04/2004 12:31:13 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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