Some folks have gotten caught up in the style argument and forgetting about substance. In this single debate, Kerry said Saddam was not a threat, then later he said he WAS a threat. It does not matter how smooth Kerry looked while he was standing there lying, he LIED.
As Rush said, the media would give Kerry the nod tonight no matter what happened, so get over it. I think you will find over the next few days however, is that Kerry will NOT move up in the polls, because no matter how well he is able to wiggle out of answering a question, he is an unlikable SOB who cannot connect with the majority of America.
Did Bush knock him out? No, I don't think so. I think that Kerry has disappointed many Democrats by attempting to suggest that he would try to win the war instead of pull out. I think Bush scored on Kerry's denigration of the coalition, but overall, I would call the debate a draw, and based on that, it was a victory for Bush.
I agree with you and after I quit acting emotionally to the style, I realized this as well. Kerry stood up there and lied his ass off. The knee jerk reaction of tonight will temper down in the coming days.
Nicely stated. I'm finding it difficult to be truly positive about President Bush's performance tonight, but I agree with you that the debate wasn't an actual WIN for F'n either. I'm sure I'd feel much better if I had been able to find my bottle opener.