[B Knotts]

I have been in the debate club and Dubya lost tonight.

:-)

My degree is in Speech Communication, so I admit I may be overreacting on technical points.

I will say that I thought Kerry's factual content was weak. He did not really articulate a concrete plan for anything other than his disastrous idea for bilateral talks with North Korea.

But, on pure debating points, Kerry did better.

[AMDG&BVMH]

"But, on pure debating points, Kerry did better."

I also debated in high school and college. I cannot concede any credibility to "debating points" without convincing content.

Saying "I have a plan" "I will do better" etc. does NOT win the debate . . . even if you say it "convincingly" -- that would be acting points, not debating points, IMO.

Kerry lost. Bush won.

WLW700 had a NKU professor who trains debaters who said the same thing: Kerry did not have anything convincing to demonstrate that he could actually DO better than Pres. Bush.