[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

• When discussing Iraq, Kerry downplays the "coalition of the willing" and insists that Dubya should have had more UN and international participation and negotiations.
• When discussing North Korea, Kerry wants to abandon use of Chinese, Russian and other international leverage against North Korea and go it alone with bilateral talks.

Fox is now showing the soundbite where Kerry says he has been consistent and Bush saying he hasn't!

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

I watched it and I was frankly distressed not so much about missed opportunities or the "unpreparedness". I was distressed at how disturbed President Bush looked at many points when Kerry was spinning responses. I thought he would be more cool and collected and in command. That is how Kerry will be percieved as winnning the debate.

BUT! Kerry also failed because it appears he was trying desperately to completely turn the tables and on Pres. Bush by labeling him as a flip-flopper while portraying himself as steadfast. THAT WAS THE USED CAR PITCH THAT ABSOLUTELY FELL FLAT. COUPLE THAT WITH NOT HAVING GIVEN ANY DIFFERENT IRAQ PLAN AND HIS APPEARANCE AS SIMPLY A CRITIC AND BACKSEAT DRIVER AND JFK CLEARLY FAILED IN WHAT HE NEEDED TO DO IN THIS DEBATE. No fundamentals of the race are changed.

[Willie Green]

Fox is now showing the soundbite where Kerry says he has been consistent and Bush saying he hasn't!

Yeah, I just heard some bimbo chanting the mantra about "the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time".
I thought Dubya scored some points the first time he used it.
But somewhere around the 3rd or 4th time it came across as pretty lame, canned and overrehearsed. IMHO, he really shouldn't have relied so heavily upon it.
I think it would have been better had he jumped on the inconsistancy that I pointed out.