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For the undecided out there, particularly the more uninformed among them, I think this one has to go to Kerry.

1. Kerry was able to put president Bush on the defensive right from the start and has kept him there.

2. In spite of several openings, Bush did not stick the proverbial fork in Kerry when he had the chance. He's being too nice by not going after Kerry directly.

3. The President has come accross as almost pleading in some of his responses, which makes him look unsure rather than confident. Kerry has come accross as confident, articulate and in control of the facts (which is easy when the facts don't matter to you and you are willing to lie without hesitation, and, in fact, have plenty of practice doing just that).

The proof will be in the poll numbers next week, but I see Kery's numbers going up. Hate to say it, but that's the way I see it. I hope I am wrong.


1,929 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:06 PM PDT by PsyOp (The bombing begins in five minutes. - Ronald Reagan.)
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To: PsyOp; sinkspur; All
i hate to have to say this, but i think those who say that Bush is winning this debate re whistling past the graveyard.

Bush is getting his ass whipped, and the tragety is he doesn't have to.

2,036 posted on 09/30/2004 7:26:42 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftist are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: PsyOp; mabelkitty

I knew I didn't watch the debate for a reason, now I remember.

The Sheep just watched Kerry make the President look weak.

And The Sheep Will Believe.


2,045 posted on 09/30/2004 7:27:04 PM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: PsyOp
Even Jonah Goldberg (per Allah) thinks Kerry won, and I agree.

On the merits, he whipped the president, hands down; luckily, the GOP has some of the best spinners and operatives around, and debate performance is seen through the prism of post-debate spin, in part because millions who watch these debates don't know a damn thing about the particulars of what is being discussed.

2,046 posted on 09/30/2004 7:27:04 PM PDT by LincolnLover
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To: PsyOp; sinkspur; All
One more thing. i think many freepers on this thread would have done better than Bush did tonight.

This is not defeatism. This is reality, and i pray Karl Rove and Bush will learn from this.

2,141 posted on 09/30/2004 7:30:38 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftist are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: PsyOp

In reply to:
"For the undecided out there, particularly the more uninformed among them, I think this one has to go to Kerry."

Disagree. Bush came across as sincere, not as pleading. Kerry did alot of talking but not much sincerity, more arrogance. Bush's strongest points:
1.Take the fight to the enemy
2. Don't allow the United States have its security determined by other nations.


2,146 posted on 09/30/2004 7:30:56 PM PDT by Mustng959 (In loving memory of those that gave their all to preserve our Freedoms!)
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