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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; debates; electionpresident; firstdebate; globalpoints; kerry
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What I can't understand is why Bush does not confront Kerry on His remarks on the issues,why not say Mr Kerry you are wrong or totally incorrect in your statement plain and simple Kerry has no Problem saying anything he wants about Bush.This hurts Bush for someone who wants to come on as strong why not address what is true and what is false.
3,521 posted on 09/30/2004 10:51:23 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: Happy2BMe
CNN/GALLUP POLL: Bush Lost Debate; Retains Double Digit Lead Over Kerry on Iraq, Terrorism USA Today | Sept. 30, 2004 | USA Today/CNN/Gallup Posted on 09/30/2004 9:32:20 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative 2. Regardless of which candidate you happen to support, who do you think did the better job in the debate: John Kerry or George W. Bush? Kerry 53%, Bush 37% 5. Next, regardless of which presidential candidate you support, please tell me if you think John Kerry or George W. Bush would better handle the situation in Iraq. Bush 54%, Kerry 43% (Pre-debate: Bush 54%, Kerry 40%)

Brother! That is going to send Kerry into a rage!

His wife will probably come out and call the American people idiots and tell us to 'shove it' LOL!

3,522 posted on 09/30/2004 10:52:42 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: nonkultur
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/30/debate.transcript.4/index.html

"And now we see beheadings. And we got weapons of mass destruction crossing the border every single day, and they're blowing people up. And we don't have enough troops there."
3,523 posted on 09/30/2004 10:53:11 PM PDT by nonkultur
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To: concerned about politics

I agree with you completely but many American will just see that Kerry came off much more informed!


3,524 posted on 09/30/2004 10:53:33 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: oceanperch

I can just see the left making a big issue out of his stuttering and using it as a way to say it is connected to his thought process.

I can see them doing that too, but in my experience, stuttering can be caused by the mind going faster than you're speakin. I think it looked more like he was trying to make sure he said things in the best way, possibly because lefties have made such a big deal out of things that he has mis-said. But then, I'm biased and I know it :-)


3,525 posted on 09/30/2004 10:53:40 PM PDT by Celtic Rose
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To: Iam1ru1-2

I am not a hero

Just a man who love my country.


3,526 posted on 09/30/2004 10:53:43 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: jennyjenny
My husband is definitly a moderate (leans to the left just a tad) but he thought President Bush won big.

See that's another moderate going for Bush. He didn't need a knockout against Kerry, Kerry needed the knockout against Bush and swinging and missing doesn't impress the swing voters. Bush wanted to impress the undecideds because the decideds have already decided. LOL

3,527 posted on 09/30/2004 10:53:48 PM PDT by Fatalis
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To: patriciamary

Well, Bush essentially told Kerry that his views and statements rendered Kerry unfit to be President.


3,528 posted on 09/30/2004 10:54:29 PM PDT by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Bedlam,Massachusetts!!)
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To: riri; NYC Republican; All
"Bush better have somebodies ass tonight, he came across as completely unprepared. He never hammered home just WTF this big master plan is? Where is this money coming from? It was like Bush kept walking into Kerry's punches. Man, I was not expecting this."

I live in Daytona Beach. I just had to fix my roof for the THIRD time, and will not be able to get it repaired properly for at least four WEEKS, because of backlogged homeowners like myself. My neighbors just got their electricity back on YESTERDAY. The town is so badly damaged on the beachside that it will take a VERY long time before it will monetarily recover.

That being said, I watched GWB touring some of the devastation in South Florida today. I wonder what Kerry was doing today, besides getting "pretty".

As I was getting ready for work starting at 4:00 pm, Neil Cavuto came across with a Fox News Alert, saying that there was a possible ANTHRAX attack at possibly 5-6 locations in Broward County, just north of Dade County where the debate was to be held.

Do you think the Secret Service RUSHED to inform Kerry of the possible attack, asked him if he needed FEMA to start a possible evacuation of say at least 2-3 thousand people (to start with), and check with homeland security to see if any other US cities have also been targeted, and see if the National Guard needs to be put on alert in Broward for help with evacuations if needed, and alert other states NATIONWIDE to be at the ready if needed.....LESS THAN FIVE HOURS BEFORE KERRY'S NATIONALLY TELEVISED DEBATE ???? And put Kerry on HOLD for around 90 or so minutes, until the possible anthrax attack was checked out for it's validity ???

Yes, I believe that GWB wanted to have somebody's ASS tonite on that stage!! After going through a possible terror attack less than 5 hours before his debate, I'm sure he would like to have the person's ASS that pulled this VERY WELL TIMED AND TOO CONVIENIENTLY PLACED fake attack. I also believe that after going through all that today, he would LOVE to have F'n's ASS, who IMMEDIATELY starts off calling him a LIAR, and HE"S NOT DOING HIS JOB !!!!!

F'n doesn't care about my roof problems, or much worse the people here in Florida who DON'T HAVE A HOME ANYMORE, NO JOB because their workplace was also destroyed. Worse yet, IMHO, F'n probably couldn't believe his "good fortune" with the anthrax "attack" RIGHT before the first and maybe MOST important prez debate. I DO believe GWB cares about me, and the American people, and unlike F'n, works 24/7-365 to KEEP IT THAT WAY. Do I think GWB's "performance" last nite was a little "less" that it could have been?? Yes I do. But I understand why, and that is why I think considering the "day" GWB had BEFORE the debate, I think he did just fine keeping his "cool" and NOT WALKING across the stage AND DECKING F'n FOR SAYING HE'S a LIAR and NOT DOING HIS JOB!! (I apologize for my "rant", but I felt it needed to be said after reading all the negative posts here tonite.Thanks !)

3,529 posted on 09/30/2004 10:54:50 PM PDT by musicman
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To: MagnumRancid
Think of the old calcified USSR before the fall.
3,530 posted on 09/30/2004 10:55:29 PM PDT by Fatalis
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To: Freepdonia
"My opinion of Bush's performance was that he didn't deliver a knockout punch, but he didn't have to. As long as he didn't make a gaffe, he was fine."

Good point. Instapundit and some earlier posts have made the same point. Bush came in leading in the polls. Bush is a known. Kerry is not. To win tonight Kerry had to score a knock out. He did not do that. So with a draw Bush wins.

Mr Sol
3,531 posted on 09/30/2004 10:55:39 PM PDT by Solar Wind
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

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I am not a hero
Just a man who love my country.
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That's more than enough for me. Thank you for your service.



3,532 posted on 09/30/2004 10:55:44 PM PDT by MagnumRancid (Grandson of IwoJimaVet, Son of 'nam Vet)
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To: MagnumRancid
This nation would survive a Kerry presidency. We are a great nation much more in spite of our leaders than because of them. A Kerry presidency would last 4 years. That's the blink of an eye in historical perspective.

This nation would not survive a Kerry presidency.

Clinton destroyed our intelligence forces and now we are in a struggle with killers who would not hesitate to use nukes against us.

The world changed after 9/11, we cannot survive a President who would not defend this country.

3,533 posted on 09/30/2004 10:56:53 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: Fatalis
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Think of the old calcified USSR before the fall.
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Desperate but inept?
3,534 posted on 09/30/2004 10:57:23 PM PDT by MagnumRancid (Grandson of IwoJimaVet, Son of 'nam Vet)
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To: Fatalis
You're CRAZY and then some!

Terry Kerry is a billionairess,has and still IS funding extremist in this country,as well as Hammas,in the Middle East.

She also has absolute contempt for America,Americans,and the "little people" (those whose net worth is under 1 billion), and is delusional.Just about EVERYTHING she said about herself and her family,when they lived in Africa,was a LIE! And yes,I know it to be a lie,because one of my daughter's friend's mother,went to grammar school with Terry's younger sister,when both families lived in Mozambique.

3,535 posted on 09/30/2004 10:57:25 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MagnumRancid

Thank You Brother


3,536 posted on 09/30/2004 10:57:46 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: Fatalis
Who's the lucky nephew? LOL

The one who inherits my house and whatever two-seater convertible I'm driving when I kick the bucket. : )

3,537 posted on 09/30/2004 10:58:03 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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To: musicman
Great rant! Good point about the phony anthrax are all of the CBS reporters accounted for?
3,538 posted on 09/30/2004 10:58:53 PM PDT by Fatalis
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To: tongue-tied

Thank You for your service to our country.


3,539 posted on 09/30/2004 11:00:01 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: patriciamary; Porterville
Let me point you to a marvelous description of what happened with the debates tonight:

Bush built the container or the house to destroy Kerry

3,540 posted on 09/30/2004 11:00:02 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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