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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

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To: Lijahsbubbe
Did someone call my name? LOL.

Kerry wants to shut down the nuclear bunker-buster program (small nukes that can burrow through rock and concrete before exploding).

Well now. Such weapons would be used only after a nuclear attack on the US. They are meant to deter by telling Kim Jong Il and the Iranian mullahs that they can't shoot and then hide -- they WILL be incinerated in their bunkers.

What's hard to understand about that? Kerry fantasizes that somehow it's fair play for us to give up our nuclear dominance in order to keep rogue nations from developing such weapons. Well, DUH. Those nations don't understand "fair play" as Kerry learned it at St. Paul's prep school.

We also should not forget that Kerry was a cheerleader for the Soviet-backed unilateral Nuclear Freeze in the 1980s -- back when the Soviet Union was a real threat, with more nuclear weapons in their inventory than the US had. Bush missed a great opportunity in failing to point this out.

Do a Google on Kerry and "nuclear freeze" -- is this the sort of judgment we want in the Oval Office? The answer is in the question itself.

2,801 posted on 09/30/2004 8:24:34 PM PDT by Lee Shore (Oy, vay!)
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To: Hildy

That fits Kerry perfectly.


2,802 posted on 09/30/2004 8:24:46 PM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife (Hillary Clinton is Ellsworth Toohey in drag.)
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To: Darnright
Kerry gets to have Manicures and Man Tans.

The good news is that the President still came off as more likable than Kerry.

The local NBC affiliate interviewed three Kerry voters, asking them which person they would like to have dinner with.

All three Kerry voters said they'd rather have dinner with Bush; obviously, even Kerry voters find Kerry too patrician and aloof to make a good dinner guest. I know that should not be a deciding factor in this race, but I'm afraid a lot of undecided voters use likability as a main factor.

2,803 posted on 09/30/2004 8:24:56 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: asgardshill; Sister_T

Thank you. I have been in the debate club and Dubya lost tonight.

I still love him and wish him victory, but he lost this round with all the bullsh*t and nonsense spewed and not quelled or challenged for explaination by the moderator.


2,804 posted on 09/30/2004 8:24:58 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: TheBattman
What's "FULE"?

That's what I put in my trukc.

2,805 posted on 09/30/2004 8:25:15 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Libertarian Jim

AMEN !!!
President Bush didnt have to dazzle tonight to win...he won by being a GREAT PRESIDENT the last 3 1/2 years leading up to this....we all know he isnt a polished speaker, it drives us nutz, BUT when the going gets tuff, he gets going and it doesnt have a thing to do with the way he debates a Liberal fool from Boston!!......
all he had to do tonight was do good.....he did....so what if Kerry is this great debater....he is a hollow shell with no heart and no soul....
we win they lose!! hehehehe


2,806 posted on 09/30/2004 8:25:18 PM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: JBlain
George W. Bush won that debate, by the near fact that he did not reach over and strangle John Kerry for being a two faced ,lying ,low down, over botoxed, frenchy sissy boy , whose whole face look like a piece of wax.

President Bush should his true Character, by not stooping to the low, low level of John Kerry, bet Kerry was dumb founded.

2,807 posted on 09/30/2004 8:25:25 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: Havoc

he's tired because he actually goes to work everyday. Kerry hasn't worked in 9 months and that's being generous


2,808 posted on 09/30/2004 8:25:31 PM PDT by Cosmo (I'm the pajamahadeen, and I vote!)
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To: Crimson Elephant

Kerry reminded me of a lawn sprinkler spraying wildly all over the place. He tried to shoot every point in every direction and hope he hit something. Bush seemed more like a water cannon.


2,809 posted on 09/30/2004 8:25:32 PM PDT by pie_eater
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To: tgiles
I think Kerry came across as presidential for the first time tonight.

Wow...I'm glad I didn't see what you saw.

: )

2,810 posted on 09/30/2004 8:25:39 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I'm a man.............I can change.............If I have to..................I guess...........)
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To: Lovergirl
Dubya has looked pissed off ever since this debate started. I keep laughing, He's just so darn cute.

Even Clinton told the democrats not to underestimate Bush.

2,811 posted on 09/30/2004 8:25:58 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Soul Seeker

Thank you. Your post was what I was hunting for....a good synopsis....much appreciated.


2,812 posted on 09/30/2004 8:25:59 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Bush Democrats = Zell's Angels)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
President Bush was the picture of grace and class in answering the question about character - that was as perfect a response as Karl Rove could have written, and it completely disarmed Kerry.

And that's when the game was over.

2,813 posted on 09/30/2004 8:26:06 PM PDT by Tribune7
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2,814 posted on 09/30/2004 8:26:08 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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Yesterday there was a thread about how the Kerry campaign was going to email out their talking points right after the debates. Has anyone seen it yet? Is it posted here?


2,815 posted on 09/30/2004 8:26:16 PM PDT by blanknoone (Red + Yellow = Orange)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom
Kerry came across as articulate, but he's still a flip flopper.

Well said! Bush made this very point enough times for the few uninformed viewers to know, most of us have already decided. Bushes message was clear and simple. Kerry wins debate on points with his articulation, Bush wins the election BIG TIME with a clear and consistent message. Bush now knows his opponent. His first debate against Gore wasn't his best, but he got better every time. Bush learns, and then improves. Mark of a good leader.

2,816 posted on 09/30/2004 8:26:16 PM PDT by Enlightiator
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To: rinkrat

They were given all the URLs by the DNC and had the emails ready to fire the minute the debate was over, they even had the talking points ahead of time. I read it all on the NRO, this afternoon.They had the email.


2,817 posted on 09/30/2004 8:26:33 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Tribune7

The whole family watched the whole thing. Dub didn't do good. I await the second debate.


2,818 posted on 09/30/2004 8:26:36 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
I have been a freeper for over five years,and I KNOW MOST AMERICANS ARE VERY UNINFORMED ON ISSUES and the media will kill Bush over this debate.I do not appreciate you calling me a fool,I JUST CALL THEM LIKE I SEEM THEM.YOU DO NOT KNOW ME PERSONALLY TO CALL ME ANYHING,I, like you ,am entitled to express my opinion,and to take constructive criticism,not rude foolish remarks!
2,819 posted on 09/30/2004 8:26:45 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: adam_az

Yes, give Iran nuclear fuel. He also said he would cancel the bunker buster program and other newer U.S. tactical nuke programs. Giving Iran nuclear fuel is just dangerous Jimmy Carter naivety - we should know better. Cancelling the bunker buster program is yet another in a long series of important military programs, that Kerry has tried to stop throughout his career.


2,820 posted on 09/30/2004 8:26:50 PM PDT by Avenger
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