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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; debates; electionpresident; firstdebate; globalpoints; kerry
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To: kpp_kpp
Kerry will do it faster and better, just because

lol...I noticed that too. Kerry has a "four point plan," more troops on the border, faster training of Iraqi troops, etc., la la la. Just HOW he is going to do this is quite unknown. And all this....for a war he would not have went into. What a leader, style, broad promises, mixed messages, no substance.

2,701 posted on 09/30/2004 8:11:00 PM PDT by Enlightiator
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To: prairiebreeze
Afghanistan is the center on the WOT

That's so 2002!

2,702 posted on 09/30/2004 8:11:05 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Texas Eagle

"Now, now. Calm down. Senator Spitball pointed out earlier in the debate that he would increase funding for police and firefighters. So if we should suffer a nuclear attack there will be plenty of police and firefighters on hand."

"Unless they happened to get nuked. But what are the odds?"

;) Thanks I needed that. I was a tad upset.

Seriously, if Kerry is in the odds are in the favor of terrorists. So we'll be caught with out pants down and unlike Sandy Berger we won't have anything there ... but heck we'll clean up what ever survives and march on with white flags and hope our "sensitivty" to them makes them like us more.

I do wish Bush had clobbered this freak. He can do it nicely and in a joking manner. You don't have to be all mean and nasty.


2,703 posted on 09/30/2004 8:11:13 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: ArmyBratCutie
The only thing I learned tonight was that Kerry is still an utter flaming tool.

I hope the next debate moderator tries questions that tell us something we don't know. Leher bites.
2,704 posted on 09/30/2004 8:11:18 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: tuckrdout

Bush has been preparing for debates for two months.


2,705 posted on 09/30/2004 8:11:27 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: Between the Lines

" Kerry also tried to sound very hawkish, something that doesn't play well with his base."

Exactly. This is the point Dick Morris has been making the past few days.


2,706 posted on 09/30/2004 8:11:28 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH (Proudly served in the National Guard)
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To: alaskanfan
Whatever Kerry was scribbling, only his handlers know for sure. All Kerry did was criticize. That's it. There were no alternatives given. He straddled the fence on Iraq....again. Cheap shots and sound bites. I'd expect nothing more from a Demoncrat.

One thing to remember about the Demoncrats. They will say and do anything to gain control. That is their number one goal and priority. The War on Terror be damned, they want the pursestrings. That's it. They desire and covet the treasury and the ability to buy loyalty. Kerry stated that he'd go to Europe and ask Europe: "What do you want?" It's obvious what Europe wants. Our money and our docile co-operation. In the domestic issues debate, Kerry will attack the tax cuts and the wealthy in America. He'll practice the politics of division and class envy. He'll promise money to the have-nots and once again use the Left program of buying off the special interests.

Kerry may have scribbled talking points on that pad. He may have scribbled a memo to resupply Tereza's Valium prescription. He may just as well have scribbled $ signs, just to keep himself focused on what it's all about for he and his ilk.

2,707 posted on 09/30/2004 8:11:37 PM PDT by Thumper1960 ("It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."-V.I.Lenin)
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To: Max7
get your teeth whitened

I'm pretty sure Kerry has dentures. He must have let them soak extra long to get them so nice and white.

2,708 posted on 09/30/2004 8:11:40 PM PDT by foolscap
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

President Bush seemed to be more natural and honest. His answers were from the heart. Kerry was a more skilled debater. No one who hasn't already made up his/her mind was watching the debate. Alot will happen between now and Nov 2. Bush will win by a large margin. Good night.


2,709 posted on 09/30/2004 8:11:47 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Hold on to your hats.....it's going to be a bumpy night")
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To: Bahbah

Just got home and missed most of the debate (heard about 20 minutes on the car radio) There is no way I'm going to read through 5,000 posts tonight, pack to leave tomorrow and make it to work in the morning.

...Can someone please have a little mercy and give my a symposis of what happened and how well Bush did in comparison to sKerry.....Thanks


2,710 posted on 09/30/2004 8:11:56 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Bush Democrats = Zell's Angels)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

It's the Bush Smirk. The people are used to it. It won't hurt him. I loved it but was saying "Dubya, watch your face..." LOL!


2,711 posted on 09/30/2004 8:12:11 PM PDT by Blogger (The only difference between Terry McAuliffe and Michael Moore is about 300 pounds)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
KERRY WENT TO THE OLD KGB BUILDING IN MOSCOW (with Senator Bob Smith). That area is called "Lubyanka Square" NOT "TREBLINKA SQUARE."

Lurch just placed a notorious Nazi concentration camp in Poland right into Soviet Russia!!

Thanks for the clarification. I didn't catch that gaff when Kerry uttered it.

2,713 posted on 09/30/2004 8:12:25 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: kpp_kpp
Kerry will do it faster and better, just because

lol...I noticed that too. Kerry has a "four point plan," more troops on the border, faster training of Iraqi troops, etc., la la la. Just HOW he is going to do this is quite unknown. And all this....for a war he would not have went into. What a leader, style, broad promises, mixed messages, no substance.

2,714 posted on 09/30/2004 8:12:26 PM PDT by Enlightiator
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To: ImpeachandRemove
When kerry says we gave up chasing osama to go to iraq, we need to remember that osama and company fled to Pakistan. It follows from Kerry's argument that we should have chased him right on into Pakistan. This would have played right into the radicals hands and likely have led to musharef's overthrow. Then we have a nuke country with radicals in charge. How smart is that?

Not to mention that Osama (or at least his dead corpse) escaped in December 2001, a full year before we started building up for Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Kerry says the tax cut was dumb. We were in a dangerous economic position with the bursting of the dot com bubble and 911. No fiscal stimulus and we risk a 1929-1930 style downward spiral. How would a depression make America stronger?

It wouldn't, but it would make gubmint stronger (see automatic weapons ban, Social Security).

2,715 posted on 09/30/2004 8:12:26 PM PDT by steveegg (John F'em Ke(rr)y - I was for outsourcing assassinations before I was against it.)
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To: Howlin

Phil Hendrie thinks Bush won on substance. Good commentary going on right now on his syndicated radio show.


2,716 posted on 09/30/2004 8:12:32 PM PDT by zook
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To: tuckrdout
please grow up.

How many Presidential debates have you watched?

The President had constant message tonight, Kerry is the one who wanted to look like the smartest student. I sincerely believe if you can write "shame" on the man who stood on the rubble in 2001, then you have serious issues with why you support the candidate. You don't suddenly become a great debator when it's all your opponent has done for 20 years. No amount of coaching in weeks is going to prepare you for that. Bush is a delegator as President. He listens, considers, makes decisions and gives people the authority to carry them out. The reason people like Bush is because he's not Joe Debator with a pat answer for everything. He's real and that's what counts.

2,717 posted on 09/30/2004 8:12:32 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (DNC and John Kerry: Forgers R' Us)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Howlin; Dog; Peach
KERRY WENT TO THE OLD KGB BUILDING IN MOSCOW (with Senator Bob Smith). That area is called "Lubyanka Square" NOT "TREBLINKA SQUARE."

Lurch just placed a notorious Nazi concentration camp in Poland right into Soviet Russia!!

I missed that one

2,718 posted on 09/30/2004 8:12:36 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I agree that the President spoke to the people. Kerry drove me nuts with all the hand gestures.

I do wish the President had said something when Kerry mentioned he was going to shut down the development of the bunker buster bombs...The president should have said..that would be expected of someone who voted against every weapon now being used to fight the war on terror. Otherwise I thought the President stayed right on his message. Kerry is just too slick and people should see that. I hope the chance comes up for Bush to mention some of the filpflop things again...


2,719 posted on 09/30/2004 8:12:43 PM PDT by celtic gal ( .wish we could put Rush up against Kerry...)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Mo1; Howlin; Chieftain
Lurch just placed a notorious Nazi concentration camp in Poland right into Soviet Russia!!

Really?!!!??!

That's quite a big flub up...

2,720 posted on 09/30/2004 8:12:46 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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