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Weaker Jack Daniel's Gets Sober Reception
AP ^ | 09/29/04 | MATT GOURAS

Posted on 09/29/2004 7:24:43 PM PDT by nypokerface

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - If you've noticed that your Jack Daniel's is carrying a little less kick these days, you're probably right. The famed "sippin' whiskey," which advertises a recipe traced back to the nation's first registered distillery, has lowered the alcohol content of its flagship brand, Old No.7 Black Label.

The whiskey now registers 80 proof, instead of 86 (or 40 percent alcohol versus 43 percent), and some drinkers feel betrayed.

"You can't screw with a legend like that and get away with it," said Frank Kelly Rich, editor of Modern Drunkard magazine. "I'm sure Jack is spinning in his grave."

The company says the switch was made because most customers prefer the less potent mix, which was marketed first in a few states and some overseas markets. The transition was completed earlier this year.

Those who want a stiffer drink can buy specialty versions like Jack Daniel's Single Barrel at 94 proof, the company said.

"We were just doing what we think most of our friends and customers wanted," said Roger Brashears, who has worked at Jack Daniel's in Lynchburg since the 1960s. "Our quality control is very scientific. It comes down to how it tastes."

The company touts Old No. 7 as "a simple reminder that some things just never change. And shouldn't. This is the old-time whiskey made as our fathers made it."

The uproar was started by a few whiskey drinkers who think Jack should stick to that promise. An online petition asking the company to switch back has gathered about 700 signatures.

"If that's what the people wanted, they would have announced it in an ad — 'Look we lowered the proof for you,'" said Rich, who calls his magazine "the voice of the recreational drinker."

Rich said the company pushed the change through without any fanfare and whiskey drinkers are just now picking up on it, saying it tastes sweeter and doesn't pack the same punch.

Jack Daniel's gets to 80 proof by adding a little more water to the raw whiskey that comes out of barrels after four years at roughly 125 proof, Brashears said.

"I can't tell the difference," he said. "We haven't done anything to affect the quality that has made us so many friends over the years."

It is not the first time drinkers have felt burned by Jack. Roughly 17 years ago, the company lowered the proof of its famed whiskey from 90 to 86.

Enough is enough, says Rich.

"I've switched to Maker's Mark since," he said. "I used to drink a bottle a week. Some of our board members drink three bottles a week. Once this gets out, it will be like the New Coke thing — they'll have to bring it back."

Competitors also jumped on Jack Daniel's. Kentucky's Jim Beam noted they have no plans to lower the alcohol content of their 210-year-old recipe.

"I think it's interesting that our primary competitor says they've been true to their roots yet they've lowered their proof and altered their recipe," said Dave Racicot, senior director of global marketing for the Kentucky whiskey.

The whiskey recipe is still the same, including four years of aging in wood barrels. Old No. 7, which Jack Daniel's says is the country's most popular whiskey with 7 million cases shipped last year, continues to sell well.

It is closing in on Johnnie Walker Black Label scotch whisky as the world's No. 1 seller, said Phil Lynch, spokesman for Brown-Forman, the Louisville, Ky.-based company that owns Jack Daniel's.

Lynch said the company uses the same ingredients and time-honored process it always has — including the charcoal filtering that makes Tennessee whiskey different than Kentucky bourbon.

Rich said the company was saving money by adding more water, but Jack Daniel's said any savings were canceled by the expense of having to change its labels.

"We don't think it's appropriate to have a magazine called Modern Drunkard dictate how we make our whiskey," Lynch said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: alcohol; jackdaniels; watereddown
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To: rocky88

I agree with you about Knob Creek. I also agree with the article. Maker's Mark is my staple stock.


21 posted on 09/29/2004 7:38:14 PM PDT by hotshu (Borrowed tagline: "They can only cheat if it's close".)
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To: nypokerface
Weaker Jack Daniel's Gets Sober Reception

How nice. Jack Daniel's has become a Metro-whisky.

We'll have to start calling it "Jill Daniel's".

22 posted on 09/29/2004 7:38:48 PM PDT by Ken H (Dan Rather, the most busted man in America)
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To: nypokerface
The company says the switch was made because most customers prefer the less potent mix
Uh huh...
23 posted on 09/29/2004 7:38:52 PM PDT by Libertina (10 Little Lying MSM Networks. CBS went down, and soon there'll be none!)
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To: CindyDawg

Not a chance!


24 posted on 09/29/2004 7:39:25 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: nypokerface

Sign the petition here: http://www.petitiononline.com/JD002/

PC Jack really ticks me off....


25 posted on 09/29/2004 7:39:28 PM PDT by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: nypokerface
Well, I'm with the fellow in the article.

I switched to Makers Mark years ago. No comparison in the quality of the whisky, MM is still a good old-fashioned bourbon.

Jack has gone downmarket, and I'm not following him there. As one of Kipling's characters said about another fellow in a short story, "No more he isn't [a drinking man] but what he takes he likes good. He won't tech no publican's hogwash acrost the bar. Four shillin's he paid for that bottle o' whisky."

26 posted on 09/29/2004 7:40:06 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: nypokerface

Well, crud. That just makes me mad.

I'd switch over to Wild Turkey with its 101 proof if I were a JD drinker.

Fortunately, I'm a Maker's Mark man, so no change necessary.


27 posted on 09/29/2004 7:41:53 PM PDT by William Martel (Foreign stupidity makes America stronger.)
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To: nypokerface
"I've switched to Maker's Mark since," he said. "I used to drink a bottle a week. Some of our board members drink three bottles a week..."

Is this company hiring? Sombody send me an application.

28 posted on 09/29/2004 7:42:10 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Hurricane Season is Over)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Since I haven't drank in years.....I did not even know that the black Jack was not still 90 proof. Back then they had green label Jack at 80 proof and it was more watery tasting. Now the old Jack is the same as the old green label.

Idiots....Maker's Mark was always better anyhow but Black Jack has a big following especially amongst the Harley crowd .

I wonder what Keith thinks?

29 posted on 09/29/2004 7:43:08 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: nypokerface

Modern Drunkard magazine. Wonder what the circulation is?


30 posted on 09/29/2004 7:44:03 PM PDT by eternity (From here to...)
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To: nypokerface

40 vs. 43? Oh come on...who really notices that subtle difference after 2 or 3 drinks?


31 posted on 09/29/2004 7:44:14 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Oompa Loompa Doopity Do - I've got a perfect puzzle for you: Find John Kerry's brains!)
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To: nypokerface

So ol' Black Jack waters his whiskey, eh? Whatta suprise. I never liked that sour stuff anyway. However, I did laugh when I read about Modern Drunkard magazine.


32 posted on 09/29/2004 7:44:51 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: wardaddy

it's the apocalypse.


33 posted on 09/29/2004 7:45:27 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: nypokerface

As a matter of fact i had noticed a difference. Now i know why. Just Damn.


34 posted on 09/29/2004 7:46:34 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: nypokerface

This is booze not soda pop. I don't get this at all. What's next a low-carb whiskey?


35 posted on 09/29/2004 7:48:07 PM PDT by midftfan
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To: nypokerface
. . . but Jack Daniel's said any savings were canceled by the expense of having to change its labels.

Riiight.

36 posted on 09/29/2004 7:48:36 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nypokerface; All

Don't forget if you don't have cough med in the house

That best cough medicine

Hot lemon with hint of JD


37 posted on 09/29/2004 7:48:49 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: snakeoil

Ping (to the FReeper formerly known as A+bert).


38 posted on 09/29/2004 7:50:20 PM PDT by AmishDude (All humor is intentional, but only if it makes you laugh.)
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To: wardaddy
I read a Keith interview a few years back where he said "Nah, I don't take drugs anymore. ....just my daily bottle of J.D. and a few doobs."

I'm partial to Old Grand Dad "114 barrel proof."

39 posted on 09/29/2004 7:51:42 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: eternity
Modern Drunkard magazine. Wonder what the circulation is?

I've heard their subcriber base is falling.

40 posted on 09/29/2004 7:51:51 PM PDT by Ken H (Dan Rather, the most busted man in America)
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