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Kerry: Allawi's Take on Iraq Unrealistic
AP ^ | Sep 23, 2004 | NEDRA PICKLER

Posted on 09/23/2004 9:46:02 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry said Thursday that Iraq's Ayad Allawi was sent before Congress to put the "best face" on Bush administration policy.

Shortly after Allawi, the interim government's prime minister, gave a rosy portrayal of progress toward peace in Iraq, Kerry said the assessment contradicted reality on the ground.

"The prime minister and the president are here obviously to put their best face on the policy, but the fact is that the CIA estimates, the reporting, the ground operations and the troops all tell a different story," Kerry said.

Allawi told a joint meeting of Congress that democratic elections will take place in Iraq in January as scheduled, but Kerry said that was unrealistic.

"The United States and the Iraqis have retreated from whole areas of Iraq," Kerry told reporters outside a Columbus firehouse. "There are no-go zones in Iraq today. You can't hold an election in a no-go zone."

Kerry's remarks come one day after he told The Associated Press that President Bush's statement that a "handful" of people are willing to kill to stop progress in Iraq was a blunder that showed he was avoiding reality.

"George Bush let Osama bin Laden escape at Tora Bora," Kerry said in a brief interview Wednesday. "George Bush retreated from Fallujah and other communities in Iraq which are now overrun with terrorists and threaten our troops. And George Bush said on the record we can't win the war on terror.

"And even today, he blundered again saying there are only a handful of terrorists in Iraq," Kerry said. "I think he's living in a make believe world."

Bush, campaigning in Pennsylvania on Wednesday, said: "It's hard to help a country go from tyranny to elections to peace when there are a handful of people who are willing to kill in order to stop the process. And that's what you're seeing on the TV screens. You know, these people cannot beat us militarily."

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Thursday, "It only took 19 people to take down the World Trade Center towers and kill 3,000 people." He said that in Iraq, "you've seen how a small number of suicide bombers can have a dramatic effect."

Bush said Wednesday the insurgents "use the only tool at their disposal, which is beheadings and death, to try to shake our will. They understand the nature of America. ... We weep when we think about the families affected by those who have been brutalized by these terrorists."

Kerry's voice was scratchy and breaking from a cold on Wednesday. He canceled most public events for Thursday in Columbus and in Iowa to rest his voice, though his words were clear at the firehouse. The campaign said running mate John Edwards would take Kerry's place in Iowa.

Kerry spoke to the AP in West Palm Beach, Fla., shortly before boarding a flight to Columbus and after Vice President Dick Cheney delivered a scathing attack on the Democrat. Speaking to reporters after meeting with Republican leaders on Capitol Hill, Cheney argued that Kerry has a penchant for wavering that makes him a weak alternative to a "steadfast leader, which is exactly what we have in President George W. Bush."

"John Kerry gives every indication that his repeated efforts to cast and recast and redefine the war on terror and our operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, of someone who lacks the resolve, the determination and the conviction to prevail in this conflict," Cheney said. "He has demonstrated throughout the course of this campaign that he lacks the clarity of vision and purpose necessary to lead our country during extraordinary times."

Kerry said he has laid out "steps to win the war, not to change, not to retreat, steps to win. George Bush is trying to fight a phantom here because he won't tell the American people the truth, so he sets up something that's not a real issue and attacks it."

Bush "missed a huge opportunity" at the United Nations this week to try to persuade leaders of other nations to join the United States in Iraq and the broader anti-terror war, Kerry said.

"I don't think he's providing the leadership we need," Kerry said. "I will do a better job of dealing with Iraq and winning the war and fighting the war on terror, period."

In a day filled with rhetorical charges and countercharges - at campaign stops and in advertising - all four candidates found fault. Responding to Cheney, Edwards said in a statement that Bush and Cheney "are the last two people we need a lecture from about how to keep the American people safe."

"It is the height of absurdity for Dick Cheney, a chief architect of the Iraq quagmire, to talk about the leadership needed to fix the mess in Iraq that he created," said Edwards, reviving a word - quagmire - often used to describe the Vietnam War.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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To: Mike Fieschko

The only one telling a different story is sKerry.

He is toast.


81 posted on 09/23/2004 10:34:06 AM PDT by Pylot
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To: lugsoul
Is it a handful or tens of thousands pouring in over the border?

In a country of 26 million, 25 thousand is a handful.

82 posted on 09/23/2004 10:39:02 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Day 15, and the pajamahadeen still demands Dan Rather be fired)
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To: Mike Fieschko
So we're supposed to trust the views of a man who exaggerated alleged atrocities in Vietnam versus a man who actually lives in Iraq, governs Iraq, and has daily experience with the Iraqi people???

We're supposed to trust a man who believes the terrorism threat is exaggerated versus a man who acknowledged small pockets of insurgents but gives an overall vision of hope for the Iraqi people, including 13 of 18 provinces ready for elections now?

We're supposed to believe a man who not only skipped Allawi's speech, but took the opportunity to discredit his words versus a man who came here, humble and grateful, and thanked ALL Americans?

We're supposed to trust a man who says Americans need to know the truth when he has spent a career embellishing lies and twisting the truth, versus a man who lives the truth every single day in a country liberated from a brutal dictator?

So we're supposed to trust Kerry over Allawi?

No way, Johnny boy. Allawi has shown today that he's a better candidate than you.

83 posted on 09/23/2004 10:40:39 AM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: lugsoul

Depends on which border you mean. The one between us here in Missouri and Kansas which daily sees several thousand folks fleeing to Missouri or Colorado or the one with Mexico which might as well not exist or the one around Iraq which is pretty vague.


84 posted on 09/23/2004 10:40:41 AM PDT by Lee Heggy (No good deed goes unpunished)
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To: Rush Limbaugh

RUSH! STOP STEALING MY STUFF!!!! :)


85 posted on 09/23/2004 10:42:01 AM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Does your answer mean that it is 25 thousand? Do you have a source for that? Because the last intelligence figure I saw on "insurgents" was 210,000. Which is only a "handful" is you think that we have a "handful" of troops in Iraq.


86 posted on 09/23/2004 10:48:00 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: Rush Limbaugh
Once again, STOP STEALING MY STUFF!!! At least give me a plug. Sheesh. Being a ghost writer sucks. :)
87 posted on 09/23/2004 10:49:36 AM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: lugsoul
Does your answer mean that it is 25 thousand? Do you have a source for that?

I'm going with Ollie North's number. And no I don't have a link. I heard him this morning on the radio.

88 posted on 09/23/2004 10:54:12 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Day 15, and the pajamahadeen still demands Dan Rather be fired)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Both, of course.


89 posted on 09/23/2004 10:55:57 AM PDT by Iberian
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To: Northern Yankee
> I think he has just alienated a huge base of his party.

The party, (Dims) alienated me with its post 9/11 reaction to the President's response to the Islamofaschists, hence, my screen name.
90 posted on 09/23/2004 10:57:07 AM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: Mike Fieschko

Absolutely amazing. The PM of Iraq gives a major speech full of thanks and gratitude to the United States and Kerry cheapens it into a political stunt. Incredible.


91 posted on 09/23/2004 10:57:59 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: reed13

Cheney is just toying with him. Wait till he gets a hold of Edwards in the VP debates.


92 posted on 09/23/2004 10:58:41 AM PDT by Iberian
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To: mabelkitty; Psycho_Bunny

Well - yeah - that's what I was trying to say - didn't articulate it well, but I was trying to say Kerry is attempting to fight at a level below what he is aiming for in the election.

AND he isn't winning that battle either - which just demonstrates that he isn't capable of even the VP role let alone POTUS.


93 posted on 09/23/2004 11:14:37 AM PDT by reed13
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To: Jenya

For a while, I thought it was Teri-the-money-honey with the loose lips, but Spandex-Johnny is also far too mouthy.


94 posted on 09/23/2004 11:19:07 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: Brilliant
In other words, Allawi is a liar.

True /False, Will sentiments like this:
Cause the Iraqi insurgents to lose heart?
Cause more allies come on board?
Cause Al-Queda to lose heart?
Make America safer?
Make Iraq safer?
Make the world safer?
Make the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan safer?
Convince the Iraqi people that the US is in for the long haul should he be elected?
Make Allawi a more effected and trusted leader?
Convince the Iraqi people that America can help>
Endear himself to the American People?

If you answered true to any of these you are as clueless as Kerry and his creatures.

OBTW: If jerry is elected (God forfend) what will he do when Allawi tells him to get his troops out of Iraq?

95 posted on 09/23/2004 11:20:39 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: narby

I correspond on a daily basis with one of the troops and get to hear the positive stuff that's going on on a daily basis.

I don't buy this, "the troops tell a diferrent story". Some maybe, but not the majority.


96 posted on 09/23/2004 11:46:29 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: Mike Fieschko
Is he for real?

What a dope

97 posted on 09/23/2004 11:46:39 AM PDT by Kaslin (Stick a fork in Kerry, he is done)
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To: Mike Fieschko

I'm glad I found this article posted! I tried to post it and got mocked because is was a duplicate post.

Anyway, what I wanted to say is, Kerry needs to keep talking...He makes himself look worse and worse the more he says!


98 posted on 09/23/2004 11:48:07 AM PDT by katdawg
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To: Mike Fieschko; Northern Yankee; Rush Limbaugh
What makes Kerry look even more incredibly stupid, is that Allawi gave a tremendous, earnest detailed speech both before Congress (many standing ovations), and also before the press. Kerry's arrogance and defeatist position does not nor will resonate with the American people. Kerry isn't helping anyone, and is in fact hurting our troops, just like he did in 1971.
99 posted on 09/23/2004 11:51:13 AM PDT by Raquel (Liberals abide by a standard all their own.)
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To: Mike Fieschko
before we went into Iraq The left said we would loose a hundred thousand troops. They were wrong!

The left said we didn't have enough troops on the ground to pull it off. They were wrong!

Two weeks into the campaign the left said we were bogged down and in a quagmire. A week later we were in Baghdad. They were wrong again.

The left said it would be a nightmare of urban fighting in Baghdad and we couldn't win. Again they were wrong.

Now the left are saying again we don't have enough troops. They are wrong.

The left is saying again we are bogged down in a quagmire. Again they are wrong.

The left again says we are losing despite conditionS in Iraq being far above prewar conditions . Again they are wrong.

The death rate is higher in Washington DC then in Iraq. Granted Americans and Westerners are targets of the insurgents however Iraq is far better off then with Saddam in power.

The Left thinks if they just repeat the same tired rhetoric and cliches over and over perhaps it will stick. Once Again THEY ARE WRONG!
100 posted on 09/23/2004 11:52:34 AM PDT by hawkiye
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