Posted on 09/21/2004 12:14:18 PM PDT by Willie Green
Kennewick, Kennewick, Kennewick...
That's not to take away from peoples that were able to establish a surviving culture.
"If you ever get a chance, take a look at the Constitution of the Iroqouis Confederacy - it's well over 500 years old (pre-contact) and is an incredible system - especially for a bunch of stone-agers"
I don't doubt that at all. :)
A bunch of stone-agers... Riiighttt....;)
Hmmm, well put a few whites in the middle of the forest in a survival situation, and put one Lipan Apache in the middle of the forest. No freaking contest as to who would win. :)
btw, Chad, I hope you could tell, but just in case, I want to say, I was agreeing with you. ;)
Pssst... Most stopped using primitive weapons within a very short time after contact - between the Dutch, the Spanish, the French, and the English, it was like guns grew on trees LOL
(Much to Gen. george Armstrong Custer's dismay heh heh heh)
Ok, not me but I am defiantly a throwback so I don't count.
Should we bring up that one of our great contributions was the idea of bathing regularly?
There is a reason that American hygiene differers so markedly from European...
Also that with only a couple of exceptions we did not believe in human sacrifice? We may have had our enemies for dinner but we did not sacrifice our children. Pre Christian Europe can not say that. All by our little selves we figured out that that was a bad thing to do.
"(Much to Gen. george Armstrong Custer's dismay heh heh heh)"
LOL! "seriesly!"
In fact, my beeber is now totally stuned for the evening, whatever that means, I'm just kind of going with the flow. :) I saw the original post but still can't really figure it out.
Okay, goodnight Chad, and everyone else. :)
Oh, I understood. I mean, I don't deny that my people may have at some point engaged in ceremonial cannibalism at some point in the past, but that practice ended with the Confederacy (Iroquoian, not southern) - It sure caused a lot of consternation in our neighbors, though. But, if it kept them afraid and well-behaved, great!
I also don't deny that my people were a pretty aggressive group who may have on many occasions engaged in the wholesale slaughter of other people. But, no one ever said war was a walk in the park...
We Had a system of government (which was pretty darn advanced), a well-trained military, well-documented agricultural practices, trade, art, language etc...
Not much different than whites, really. Just a different environment, and lacking the benefits of other civilizations around us - no Arabs, no Asians, or anyone else to influence and bring about changes... The people of Europe had all that (and that was a good thing)...
It would be an insult to have lost to a herd of bunnies. :^)
"no one ever said war was a walk in the park."
Very, very well said.
Chad, if you have the chance, try to go to Tom Brown's tracker school.
I mean, I am a huge "mutt" -- my parents & and grandparents were Swedish, Czech, German, Jewish, Native American -- who knows and really ... who cares?
Last week was one of the most amazing experiences I've ever had. Tom learned from a Lipan Apache scout and he's doing his best to pass on the tradition.
If anyone wants to learn the old ways, I highly recommend this school. It was a life-changing experience for me.
Calvin Locke: Kennewick, Kennewick, Kennewick...
I'm not up on paleoanthropology, but I thought Kennewick man was 9 thousand years old; the Clovis people showed up 11 thousand years ago. But you're right, I gather there's some evidence of earlier peoples. Can you imagine being here back then, on a pristine continent with sabertooth tigers, mammoths and giant ground sloths roaming around?
Probably why there's so little evidence.
Yes, I believe it would be LOL
Tracker School? I'm an Indian - we're born knowing that stuff. Sort of like how women are born knowing how to shop, and how to cry? ;0) (Just kidding)
I know enough to be dangerous, but not much more :0)
You are gonna get it.
What? What did I say?
I could write a book of the things you've "said". LOL
And it would be called...????
Good going, Dave.
The Comanche Professor knocks another one right out of the ballpark!
In my experience, the book will be entitled "Men Suck -- but Not Enough".
Blackfoot.
Based on things I'VE said? LOL Ooooookay...
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