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Call me Black. That's with a capital B.
Houston Chronicle ^ | September 19, 2004 | JOHN MCWHORTER

Posted on 09/19/2004 8:28:12 AM PDT by Dog Gone

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To: tickles
These labels are so stupid in the first place, most useful to liberals and Black activists in order to wield political power. It's easy to see the how non-sensical these characterizations have become.

We've all heard "Bill Clinton was the first Black President".

And "Colin Powell is not really Black."

And yet, consider that Teresa Heinz Kerry is an "African-American".

These are things I bring up whenever someone tries to put me on the defensive about racism in America and how stupid these labels are.

Another useful observation I have employed is "If America is so racist against Black people, then why do so many people from Haiti and Africa try to come live here - many of them at risk of there own lives?"

41 posted on 09/19/2004 9:10:03 AM PDT by AC86UT89
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To: William Terrell

You said: How about Negro with a capital "N" instead of anthropologically inaccurate slang?

How is "Negro" any different than "Black"? Don't they mean the same thing?


42 posted on 09/19/2004 9:12:27 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Kingasaurus
"I ill now use the tern "jeans of blue". "

And if you're a Frenchie like Kerry, you can call them jeans de bleu.

43 posted on 09/19/2004 9:14:13 AM PDT by mass55th (It's the superscript, stupid!!!!)
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To: Dog Gone

BTTT


44 posted on 09/19/2004 9:14:17 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Kingasaurus

National Association for the Advancement of COLORED PEOPLE

If someone finds that offensive then they should change
the name of the organization to NAAAAP or something.


45 posted on 09/19/2004 9:14:48 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: MamaB

My children, when younger, described their friends who were black as, for example, "the little boy with the brown skin." There was no value judgment attached. The expression was used just as "red-headed" or "skinny" might be used.


46 posted on 09/19/2004 9:16:27 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Dog Gone

How about I just call you Mr. McWhorter? And you don't try to accrue all kinds of bogus street cred from memories of being a slave that you don't even have? How about we don't try to be like John Kerry who claimed his was Irish? Or Hillary Clinton who grew up in Chicago and claimed to be a rabid Yankees fan?
What if we all stopped doing this really pathetic stuff?


47 posted on 09/19/2004 9:17:37 AM PDT by Vinomori
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

If they change it to NAAPoC, they'd probably be happier. Unfortunately, they just use the initials and hope nobody notices the anachronism. Move along, folks, nothing to see here - and all that.


48 posted on 09/19/2004 9:17:43 AM PDT by Kingasaurus
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
Well, the point is that I would have no problem with being called a Caucasian, or "Cauc" as a derivative. I am not "white" and neither are Negroes "black". The farther we get from clear unemotional terms the closer we get to emotional strife.

49 posted on 09/19/2004 9:18:25 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: NCLaw441

"My children, when younger, described their friends who were black as, for example, "the little boy with the brown skin." There was no value judgment attached. The expression was used just as "red-headed" or "skinny" might be used."

That's pretty much how scientists do it. Differences between people are recognized, but things like "The Black Race" or "The White Race" are scientifically meaningless. Because the "races" have no defined edges.

Calling someone "black" is like calling them "tall". It might have descriptive meaning, but there certainly is no such thing as "The Tall Race".


50 posted on 09/19/2004 9:21:58 AM PDT by Kingasaurus
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To: NCLaw441
How is "Negro" any different than "Black"? Don't they mean the same thing?

"Negro" is a derivative of "Negroid", a classical anthropological term denoting a race of mankind, as is "Caucasian" and includes many characteristics other than skin color. "Black" and "White" are colors meant to relate to skin shades, and are inaccurate to boot.

51 posted on 09/19/2004 9:23:08 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Dog Gone; Trueblackman; rdb3; mhking

heh, heh, hehhhh....the PC mafia's "African-American" divisiveness is being challenged!

The AWB Has Expired - Gun Owners Have Won Again For All Americans!

52 posted on 09/19/2004 9:25:07 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
I don't use the term "African American" to refer to myself to begin with. I was born in Indiana. I've never been to Africa. [shrug] I'm proud to be an American. Period.

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53 posted on 09/19/2004 9:29:53 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mass55th

I loooove ethnic jokes and telling them. If we can be less serious about ourselves, we can enjoy our wonderful differences from others.

I tell people I can tell ethnic jokes because I'm Cherokee/Norwegian, and you can't get much more screwed up than that.

I'm not sure about the Indian heritage, but I do know one thing, and am thinking of having this put on my ridin' vest:

"I am a AMERCAN, what the hell are you?"


54 posted on 09/19/2004 9:45:37 AM PDT by wizr (Without the War on Terror, you only have the Terror. Ask a Russian.)
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To: Dog Gone
Colored and Negro had their good points but carry a whiff of Plessy vs. Ferguson . . .

Here are two racist quotes from the racist Plessy v Ferguson:

"If the two races are to meet upon terms of social equality, it must be the result of natural affinities, a mutual appreciation of each other's merits and a voluntary consent of individuals."

"Legislation is powerless to eradicate racial instincts or to abolish distinctions based upon physical differences, and the attempt to do so can only result in accentuating the difficulties of the present situation."

55 posted on 09/19/2004 9:58:28 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: wizr
""I am a AMERCAN, what the hell are you?""

Maybe I'll follow suit with:

"I'm a member of the human race, what the hell are you?"

56 posted on 09/19/2004 10:00:40 AM PDT by mass55th (It's the superscript, stupid!!!!)
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To: Dog Gone
This subject has been done to death. At least with me.. There is only one race.... the human race.. disinformation opposing that concept.. is ugh! disingenuous... I think hyphenated americans are as lame as affirmative americans... Oh! you don't know what an affirmative american is... Well let me say that in america everybody is equal except some are a little more equal that others... BY LAW... except for the DE-firmative action for FETUS"'S... ALSO BY LAW... RACE is the mirage that supports Mob Rule which is of course democracy.. it does pay to be a democrat..
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To be pigeon holed by "race" robs you're humanity.. and offends whatever "race" you're NOT.. some people are members of several "races" they choose which ever one is more profitable. Cultural identity is another Mob Rule supporting subject.. There is a Black culture , a Gay culture , a Red-Neck culture, even a Feminist culture..

The "race" and "culture" you have chosen to be are illusions and mental figments.. because there is really only one race; the human race.. but many cultures.. Thats why political Multi-Culturism is a mistake.. politics by Mob Rule is what democracy "IS" and also WHY it don't work fairly.. Socialism is not fair, never has been, and can't be. Socialism is Mob Rule and is political gang warfare... Whatever "colors" you wear is everything to gang members..

What colors do YOU wear ?

Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

57 posted on 09/19/2004 10:01:27 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: mass55th

Yeah, well.......

from what I've read, many Indian tribes treated the earth, grass, trees and animals as brothers. Many peoples gave thanks, even to the animals they ate. We "humans" may rule, but many times not justly. What did a buffalo ever do to us?

The Bible says "ashes to ashes, dust to dust".

Maybe I'm just dirt. But to me, I'm Wiz (sound on prairie, mad by buffalo)


58 posted on 09/19/2004 10:17:25 AM PDT by wizr (Without the War on Terror, you only have the Terror. Ask a Russian.)
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To: Born in a Rage

I'm a Native American.


59 posted on 09/19/2004 10:20:46 AM PDT by Tribune7
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