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To: Buttaboom

Guys, I rarely post anything on this site although I read it a lot. Normally people see the important issues here long before the old press sees them. But I think the Democrats and old press are getting by with something and nobody seems to care. If you look at the forged memos they paint a picture of Bush being treated a little different because his father is the local congressmen. That's OK I am sure Amy Carter and Moon Unit Zappa were treated differently because of their fathers, Sometimes its a good thing and sometimes it stinks. A son is always trying to get out of his fathers shadow and when your father is so prominent it can be very frustrating. But read the memo closely and think about who wrote it.
Because several people out there have said there are general truths to the memo. They are now using the words of the forger to say things like "sugar coat". But Killian never used that term, the forger did. Just because people acknowledge that Jerry Killian's job was to make sure all the very young officers under his command got their work done, and he probably didn't like it at times, it does not mean that there is anything you can take from these memos. They did not say he had a particular problem with George Bush or that anyone asked him specifically to sugar coat any particular thing. Remember the forger had a lot of hate and he wrote these to have the greatest impact.
Additionally, the main stream press is saying that George Bush did not show up for a physical and therefore disobeyed a direct written order. And even Bush admits he didn't take the physical because he was transferring out to a unit that had no planes. But the direct written order part is from the memo. We don't know if Bush talked to Killian about this to explain things. We don't know if Killian even cared about George Bush. It was his job to run around and make sure all his men got physicals and he probably hated this part of his job as well. But if Bush was transferring, did he care that Bush got a physical or did he just want to check him off his list. We don't know.
In short, when the media finally agrees that the memos are fake then they should be thrown out and no longer analyzed. They are lies written by a fraud who hates the president. If we care to find out what really happened. We need to talk to people who were really there. But whatever we do, we should not be quoting the forgeries as truth.


132 posted on 09/19/2004 9:41:51 AM PDT by poinq
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To: poinq

Nobody here is quoting them as truth, which isn't even the point of this thread or my post about mental illness as a defense/excuse/fault, which is what you just replied to.

Others have made your points too, and they've made them to members of the press and talk tv/radio. People here know the truth about the physical and Bush's time away from TANG. They know the protocol for physicals, know that Bush wouldn't have received an order to take one because he wasn't even overdue for it. They know the assertions are fake, in whole.

And we do know what Killian thought of Bush. He told his wife that he liked him and we know from a letter the senior Bushes received that others in command felt the same way. This is hardly an unexplored issue.


134 posted on 09/19/2004 9:58:45 AM PDT by Buttaboom (I didn't play Dungeons and Dragons all those years and not learn a little something about courage.)
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