Interesting read.
1 posted on
09/17/2004 12:46:39 PM PDT by
Zyke
To: Zyke
I saw this. Very interesting, indeed.
2 posted on
09/17/2004 12:51:39 PM PDT by
RockinRight
(W stands for whoop-a**!!!)
To: Zyke
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Wow, that's a lot of big words. |
3 posted on
09/17/2004 12:55:02 PM PDT by
Fintan
(Oh...am I supposed to read the article???)
To: Zyke
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Since people are unequal in their ability to accumulate property, as Hayek argued in the Mirage of Social Justice, equality of results can only be pursued by treating people unequally. This is the origin of the double standard.
Brilliant. I have never read Hayek. I'm going to now.
To: Zyke
Bump. Excellent.
But equality between unequals cannot be just (because it involves the expropriation of the justly earned fruits of more talented labor) and is incompatible with liberty (because it requires force to achieve).
Just one of the golden nuggets within.
7 posted on
09/17/2004 1:08:20 PM PDT by
Yaelle
To: Zyke
ping for later reading....
Reminds me of Allen Bloom's "Closing of the American Mind"...
8 posted on
09/17/2004 1:13:58 PM PDT by
DrDavid
(I'd Rather Not)
To: Zyke
BUMP. "a bigot or a cynical political manipulator" that would be me. We must fight against the left and there desire to destroy our country with all of our might.
11 posted on
09/17/2004 1:22:25 PM PDT by
gakrak
To: Zyke
The article doesn't answer the question though, although I think it's over the target. It gave examples of just the sort of answers I hear conservatives give that don't work. What does work?
To: Zyke
The basic reason for the "liberal" double standard has already been alluded to. It is that today's "liberals" are really leftists who have rejected the older liberal belief in a shared equality of citizens before the law and have embraced the socialist vision of "equality as a fact and equality as a result," as Lyndon Johnson famously put it. Since people are unequal in their ability to accumulate property, as Hayek argued in the Mirage of Social Justice, equality of results can only be pursued by treating people unequally. This is the origin of the double standard. Bingo. Wish I had seen this first. The blogger Lawrence Auster has talked about the "unprincipled exception" of liberalism. It seems that perhaps that exception is not so unprincipled after all.
14 posted on
09/17/2004 1:48:35 PM PDT by
Dumb_Ox
(Ares does not spare the good, but the bad.)
To: Zyke
This is a great evaluation of the left. However, I have a question about one part:
"Modern liberalism is a leftist and nihilistic rebellion against the inherently unequal nature of the human condition. If we conservatives named this ideology for what it is, we would have a fair chance to defeat it or at least stem its advance."
The writer obviously acknowledges that the term "liberal" has been twisted from it's original meaning, but is he suggesting that a winning strategy includes redefining "liberal" into it's original meaning? If so, I think it's the wrong approach. The term "liberal" changed during the Vietnam era, and the negative connotations now associated with the word are thanks to the radical nuts of the day.
Wouldn't it be easier, and wouldn't we increase our chances of success, if we simply left that alone for now? It seems to me that it would be difficult and time consuming to shift the meaning of "liberal" back into it's original form. Why not come up with a new term to describe people that would fit into the traditional meaning of liberalism and continue ostracizing the modern day nuts as "liberals"?
15 posted on
09/17/2004 1:49:04 PM PDT by
Jaysun
(The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action)
To: Zyke
Nutshell version: Liberals are self-hating pussies without any apparent link to the real world.
20 posted on
09/17/2004 2:08:40 PM PDT by
headsonpikes
(Spirit of '76 bttt!)
To: Zyke
24 posted on
09/20/2004 10:38:14 AM PDT by
jonno
(We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
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