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Running list of issues from the Dan Rather interview of Killian's secretary, Marion Carr Knox
CBS News 60 Minutes ^ | 9/15/2004 | Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

Posted on 09/15/2004 8:21:02 PM PDT by Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

There's no "who", "what", "when" and "where" in her statements. Sounds like just her "feelings". That's not evidence. It's Rather pathetic, don't you think?


21 posted on 09/15/2004 8:32:22 PM PDT by Niks
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To: narby

But did they really serve with them? Because if they weren't in the plane with him; they must not telling the truth.


22 posted on 09/15/2004 8:32:52 PM PDT by MattMa (I'm not a victim, I am a conservative and if you get to close, I just may bite.)
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne
Can it be that CBS's m.o. and overall strategy has been to destroy republican presidents. I'm wondering how much they cooked up fraudulent information going all the way back to Nixon?

CBS should be heavily fined and cancelled for their pernicious and egregious actions. I despise CBS News and their advertisers.

And, furthermore, CBS will no longer be a station my family will view for anything they wish to broadcast. They are banned from my television viewing until they exterminate the vermin that resides within their bowels and flush it out.

23 posted on 09/15/2004 8:34:59 PM PDT by harpo11 (Go Team BUSH--Nothing will hold us back--Terminate Terrorists and free the world of hell's vermin!)
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne
That interview was obviously extensively edited, like almost every sentence was jerky. They must not have had time to get Michael Moore's editor.

Wouldn't be surprised to see her repudiate the interview soon.

24 posted on 09/15/2004 8:37:03 PM PDT by bayourod (Kerry would avenge the murder of my family by terrorists. Bush would prevent the murders.)
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What would you all think IF Rather/CBS had Ms. Knox scoped out ahead of time, but did know how to introduce her blather without any documentation? Soooo, they had someone come up with some docs knowing that they'd be ID'd as fakes, but didn't care. All they wanted was a means to introduce Ms. Knox's verbal confirmation into the scam with some credibility.


25 posted on 09/15/2004 8:37:44 PM PDT by Rockyrich
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

I would add that in an earlier article, Mrs. Knox said that she hardly knew Lt. Bush. It's amazing how quickly she remembered all these details. I wish I could find that link to the interview she gave to a Texas paper. Maybe someone here can recall it?


26 posted on 09/15/2004 8:37:47 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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27 posted on 09/15/2004 8:38:57 PM PDT by happydogdesign
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

Rather never asked her about Bush's Honorable Discharge. She would have done the paperwork. Why did Bush get an Honorable Discharge? I also believe that Killian went out of his way to personally deliver the discharge. Why doesn't Dan discuss this? Also, Bush's request to work on a campaign in 1972. She would have done the paperwork on that, too!


28 posted on 09/15/2004 8:39:48 PM PDT by euclid216
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

Yesterday, her son told the press that Knox would have nothing more to say to the press. Hmmm...as the old saying goes...MONEY TALKS!


29 posted on 09/15/2004 8:46:27 PM PDT by vox humana
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne
What a solid case Dan has built!

She says:

"it seemed the other fellows were, I am going to say this, sort of resentful for his attitude"

"he didn't really have to go by the rules?" Knox - "it seemed that way to me"

"it was sort of gossip around there... about what he was getting away with"

"I guess there was even a resentment"

"I am going to say that he did. I feel that he did."

This is reporting? Rather is a disgrace.

30 posted on 09/15/2004 8:46:52 PM PDT by Rocky (Heinz Kerry: 57 positions on any issue)
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To: Nosterrex
Can anyone direct me to Knox' previous interview(s)?

I wouldn't be too hard on the woman. She's 86 years old. But Rather's not asking her anything specific about the memos is unacceptable. We don't know what exactly she says was in the memos. Clearly they're not a word-for-word copy, are they? -- including the parts that don't make sense (date well before Bush's birthday for medical order, Staudt pressure 18 months after retirment).

31 posted on 09/15/2004 8:47:08 PM PDT by DWPittelli
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne
What struck me is she knew the documents weren't "authentic" but that she had typed up documents LIKE those with basically the same information in them.

To me, it wasn't clear if she was saying she had typed up documents with information in them SPECIFICALLY ABOUT GWB or if she was admitting to typing up documents based on the same format and wording, but they were regarding OTHER ANG MEMBERS.

Did anyone else think it was a bit generic, too? Rather really didn't pin her at all on specifics, and I think, for the seriousness of the charges, she was vague on identifying just WHO it was she claims she typed up "documents like that" for????? i.e. who was the subject of the documents she DID type..?
32 posted on 09/15/2004 8:47:49 PM PDT by soozla ("I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure............"-John Kerry)
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To: Nosterrex
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1216464/posts

Requires registration. The article does not have a direct quote, but it does say:

Last week, Knox said she had no firsthand knowledge of Bush's time with the Texas Air National Guard, although she did recall a culture of special treatment for the sons of prominent people, such as Bush and others.

33 posted on 09/15/2004 8:51:29 PM PDT by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

Two questions from my wife, who actually watched the segments:

1) The woman didn't appear to her to be anywhere within twenty years of 86 years old -- has anyone verified that this is actually Killian's secretary?

2) She recalls Knox saying that Killian didn't believe that Bush was fit to be governor; wasn't Bush elected governor after both Killian and Knox were out of the TANG, and if so, how did they happen to have this conversation?


34 posted on 09/15/2004 8:53:13 PM PDT by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: blake6900
Knox said she didn't type these memos but Rather never asked her if she had typed any memos similar to these regarding Bush. She did say she would have typed them differently but the main question, "did you ever type memos like these about George W. Bush?" was never asked or answered.

Actually, I think it was.

Rather - "Did you type ones like this?" Knox - "Yes" Rather - "Containing the same or identical information?" Knox - "The same information, yes"

35 posted on 09/15/2004 8:53:31 PM PDT by Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne
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To: kingu

I read somewhere that Killian's son says he remembers Knox working for his father, sorry no link (it was probably on Drudge somewhere)


36 posted on 09/15/2004 9:00:31 PM PDT by Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne
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To: Howlin

Good point, unnamed indeed.

And thank you for the kind words.


37 posted on 09/15/2004 9:03:43 PM PDT by Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Too bad it is kind of long for a bumper sticker,


38 posted on 09/15/2004 9:05:50 PM PDT by Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

I heard Killin Jr say that he has known Know since he was 6 years old!1 BUT she was NOT his father's Personal Secy!!


39 posted on 09/15/2004 9:06:36 PM PDT by Claire Voyant ((visualize whirled peas))
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To: kingu
The woman didn't appear to her to be anywhere within twenty years of 86 years old

That was the first thing that stuck me about her as well.

40 posted on 09/15/2004 9:09:30 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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