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Hurricane Ivan -- Thursday 9/16 thread [Landfall!]
NWS/NHC, various | 9/16/2004

Posted on 09/15/2004 7:38:29 PM PDT by lainie

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To: Quilla

As a parent of two teenage girls I can testify that teenagers can sleep through anything that happens before noon!!!


561 posted on 09/16/2004 6:13:47 AM PDT by NCjim
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To: Alas Babylon!

Winds in Tallassee at 72mph! Wow! We're getting hit with 20 and gusts up to 40. I'm praying for y'all.


562 posted on 09/16/2004 6:16:25 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla
I think that gust was part of what doppler radar showed at 5:00 am. It could very well have been a tornado that JUST missed my weather station, but right now I don't see any damage to the trees, and winds are around 30MPH.

You probably had such gusts at landfall last night when doppler showed tornados in Dothan.

563 posted on 09/16/2004 6:24:56 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Eagle Eye

Adam Housley on Fox reporting that a bridge over I-10 in Pensacola is down. Daylight is allowing more updates, not looking good.


564 posted on 09/16/2004 6:25:33 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla

Oh, and I'm quite high up on a hill, that is the highest point around these parts.


565 posted on 09/16/2004 6:25:41 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: mhking
Ivan's moving a little faster than they were projecting yesterday, which had Ivan sitting over Chattanooga on Sunday.

Now, he's projected to be over Kentucky on Sunday.

That's good news for us in that we won't get as much rain.

Bad news is, with the increased speed, Ivan's still gonna be at tropical storm strength when he gets here. The stronger and faster Ivan is, the more at risk we are for tornadoes.

AS IVAN MOVES NORTH OVER ALABAMA AND DIMINISHES...WARM...UNSTABLE...AND MOIST TROPICAL AIR WILL OVERSPREAD THE STATE. A STRONG LOW LEVEL JET OF OVER 60 MPH WILL ROTATE AROUND IVAN ACROSS THE STATE. THIS WILL CAUSE STRONG SHEAR AS THE UPPER WINDS WILL BE LESS. DEWPOINTS WILL INCREASE INTO THE 70S ...LIFTED INDICES WILL DECREASE TO AROUND -5...AND CAPES WILL INCREASE TO AROUND 1500 OVER CENTRAL GEORGIA THIS AFTERNOON. THE MAIN THREAT OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE WEST OF A BLUE RIDGE TO MACON TO VIENNA LINE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING.

566 posted on 09/16/2004 6:36:14 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Have a burger and a beer and enjoy your liquid vegetables.)
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To: Quilla

I-10 or I-110?

Obviously I don't have access to TV right now.


567 posted on 09/16/2004 6:41:17 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (No, I didn't, but I know a guy who did.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

Dew points over 70 and lifted index at -5 looks bad for twisters.

A CAPE of 1500 indicates enough energy to spawn tornadoes, but not as explosively as a CAPE of 2500 to 3000 or greater.

(CAPE = Convective Available Potential Energy)


568 posted on 09/16/2004 6:42:02 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Eagle Eye; Quilla

I heard the same report and I believe he said I-10 over a lake (?)..I was in the othe room and did not see, only heard.


569 posted on 09/16/2004 6:43:55 AM PDT by Gabz (Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
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To: Eagle Eye

P'cola News Journal just quit returning ping. If it stays down, best chance for early updates is down with it.


570 posted on 09/16/2004 6:46:24 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Quilla

That's the I-10 bridge over Escambia Bay. Washed out at both ends. They have an 18 wheeler stuck on the bridge. No sign of the driver.


571 posted on 09/16/2004 6:46:40 AM PDT by Dawgmeister
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To: Gabz; Eagle Eye

I'm pretty sure he said I-10. I have to run from computer to tv for that type of multi-tasking - I'll call it exercise today.


572 posted on 09/16/2004 6:47:47 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: jeffers

The homepage is up, but the forums are down. That'll slow reports by a little, but not as bad as total failure.


573 posted on 09/16/2004 6:48:38 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: CobaltBlue


It'll be months before power is fully restored.
MONTHS.


574 posted on 09/16/2004 6:49:43 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: Gabz

I-10 crosses Escambia Bay but doesn't have anything overhead.

Closing I-10 in Pensacola at the bridges is nearly disasterous all by itself. Traffic jams with no where to go.

But this could be some new bridge construction connecting Escambia and Santa Rosa counties just east of Pensacola. Very bad news if that's the case.

My family had to evacuate a few days ago so I've been anxiously watching the storm to see if we have a house left when all is done.


575 posted on 09/16/2004 6:51:02 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (No, I didn't, but I know a guy who did.)
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To: hawkk; All

I have interest in the Wilmer area... just outside of Mobile on the Al-Miss border. Thanks.


576 posted on 09/16/2004 6:51:06 AM PDT by exhaustedmomma
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To: Cvengr
Since these conditions aren't normal, they are rarely tested,..when they are, failures are expected as 'acts of God' and frequently lessons are too costly to find or redesign to overcome.

Thanks for your explanation!

577 posted on 09/16/2004 6:51:11 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Cedar; BearWash

I agree. For the first time in forever I watched CNN (Anderson Cooper, Miles O'Brien and Orelon) for a while last night and it's usually true - when the news is breaking and is the least political, CNN has the best coverage.


578 posted on 09/16/2004 6:53:55 AM PDT by agrace
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To: jeffers

The extreme helicity values of 600-1200 M2/S2 will help updrafts make good use of those 1500 CAPE.

http://kamala.cod.edu/spc/0409161207.acus11.html


579 posted on 09/16/2004 6:54:58 AM PDT by weatherFrEaK (Who, me?)
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To: Dawgmeister

I can't imagine what an 18 wheeler would have been doing on the road this morning. Prayers for the driver. And thanks for the update.


580 posted on 09/16/2004 6:55:16 AM PDT by Quilla
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