Hurricane Ivan -- Thursday 9/16 thread [Landfall!]

NWS/NHC, various | 9/16/2004

[Ptarmigan]

DixieChick2, I am sorry to hear that. I hope you will be okay. It is a bad situation. I know that first hand.

[BurbankKarl]

Mobile PD EOC saying the phone lines are down.

[lainie]

A friend of mine who's had weather training through the military looked at everything last weekend and pronounced the landfall Gulfport, Mississippi last Sunday. Looks like he's going to be off by about 33 miles, but that's not bad at all. Beats some people I saw on TV last weekend, that's for sure.

[lainie]

Pensacola PD had lost their two-way ability, according to a drowned rat reporter a while ago.. forget which channel.

[SlowBoat407]

I've always suspected that there is a drag effect on the first part of the storm to come ashore, causing it to rotate CCW around that point and start in a new direction. Crude, but preliminary thoughts.

[snapperjk]

...Incredible! And the worst is yet to come. Playing musical chairs at the Civic Center not good.

[Hunble]

Gulfport, Mississippi last Sunday. Looks like he's going to be off by about 33 miles

Well you know, the military always does things better....

LOL

P.S. If he was within 500 miles, he did better than the NHC!

[BurbankKarl]

That is a Motorola Trunked System....

should have stuck with straight two way, IMHO.

[Conservababe]

I am getting a little fed up hearing of people going to shelters, especially in Louisiana, and being told to bring their own food and water, and being turned away.

And what is this farce in New Orleans with the mayor wandering around in a fog and the little lady governor giving interviews praising the birth of her grandchild instead of addressing the issue of this crisis.

Louisiana used to have the best civil defense in the nation to deal with hurricanes. It was a co-ordinated effort of all state workers, the guard and ham radio operators. And no, the Red Cross never showed up until it was over, to have their pictures taken.

Folks, I'm talking here of folks being transported out of rural or urban areas in the path of a hurricane long before the last minute of the meterologists estimates. Sometimes they were transported even in freight cars, if necessary.

And when they arrived at the shelters, they were supplied with food, even if it was just cold cheese sandwiches. And they had water, medicines and diapers for their children. And the ham radio operators were dispatched to the shelters to relay information. And the guard was called out to transport civil servants, like my mom who was in charge of a shelter, and others to their jobs and provide security.

Where has this all gone, I ask? Is it now the job of government to say "we advise you to hit the road" and there is nothing else we can do"?

I'm ranting and I am angry.

[Eagle Eye]

Hurricanes are dangerous to homes as well....btw, CNN, Hurricanes MAKE people homeless!

[steve86]

Are you sure your color is adjusted right? I don't see any red-haired woman.

[BurbankKarl]

I agree, we had a discussion earlier about the Superdome. They should have asked restaurants to bring all the food that is going to spoil and drop it off.

The Red Cross refused to set up inside the city, because it was below sea level. Now if they were given space within the Super Dome from the beginning, I bet they would have set up.

I dont care if there was $80,000 in damage last time it was opened up....you are talking 20,000 people.....it is worth the price!

[lainie]

He sent me an instant message yesterday that read, "People should pay me for this!" I wonder how much ol' Max Mayfield makes. heh

That's mean. sorry.

[Hunble]

Not drag, but a pushing effect.

Remember, a hurricane like this is pushing a massive amount of air out of it's way.

Push a rug and see how it bunches up. Stand back and look at where the rug has bunched up.

With only a single image, could you predict the direction that the rug moved?

[lainie]

That story came up earlier on FNC. Can you believe people rioted in the emergency shelter because they didn't like the accommodations and all they had to eat was hot dogs? That's amazing. I remember that.. it was during Georges right?

[rdl6989]

I'm listening to WPMI 710 AM in Mobile. They just reported that in Gulf Shores the roof has been torn off of the Fire Station. Here's a link.
http://www.wntm.com/main.html

[snapperjk]

Sorry. That's bad government at it's best.

Thankful here in FL that we have Jeb Bush. Jeb now dubbed the 'Hurricane Governor'. Anyone living in FL and thinking voting Kerry, needs their brain cells rearranged.

[BurbankKarl]

And you know what the bottom line is too....

The people that need it the most dont donate to the campaigns.

[exhaustedmomma]

Yeah. I read some people in NO couldn't get out of town or to a shelter because they didn't have transportation. pathetic.

[lainie]

The IRLP is still running [ahem] and NHC Miami estimates at 1 a.m. CDT, Ivan's center to be very near the Alabama coastline.