Posted on 09/14/2004 5:39:15 PM PDT by nevergore
According to Laurie Dhue at the bottom of the hour all flights are grounded at LAX due to a "radio problem"...
The skies seem Quiet!!
Feels weird!!
Thanks Joe. It's a... bit alarming.
They are quite indeed. Last time we saw the skies so empty, was 911.
'IPN BREAKING NEWS: San Francisco: Airport Alert - San Jose - San Jose International Airport - Unknown type aircraft with unk. problem - SJFD dispatching Alert 2 /5 min eta - SFO000
You guys aren't alone. Something is very uncomfortable about this and if I end up feeling foolish in the morning, so be it.
But for now, I am extremely tense. Didn't someone mention flights are grounded as far east as Indiana?
Quiet here in Pittsburgh, FYI.
Lots of planes here in Denver. Probably bringing in some originally bound for out west.
Thank you....now can we all agree that something is "up"?
Correction. All flights in the S. West.
No air traffic in Columbus, Ohio
I appreciate what you are trying to do. But people here have good reasons to be concerned. No doubt some FReeper family members or friends are in the air right now, and they are wondering if they will arrive safely at their destinations.
This time two weeks ago, I had 2 daughters in the air, one flying to Sand Diego, and one to Seattle If this had been going on then, I would have been a basket case.
RECENT article, with some new info, I think:
"At the time of the outage, air traffic controllers could monitor the planes on radar but were not able to communicate with them, Brown said.
Pilots were forced to switched to a different radio frequency to communicate with other control facilities, she said."
Can you imagine, losing all communications to the planes?
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/politics/9664308.htm
FAA radio outage affects airports, flights in West
LOS ANGELES - Radio failure at a Federal Aviation Administration control facility forced some airports in the West to hold flights on the ground Tuesday, authorities said.
The outage occurred at 4:40 p.m. PDT at the Los Angeles Air Route Traffic Control Center in Palmdale, in the desert north of Los Angeles, which controls airspace in the Los Angeles region, northern California and parts of Nevada, said FAA spokeswoman Laura Brown.
The cause of the radio failure has not been determined, but authorities were scrambling to identify and fix the problem, Brown said.
Brown said planes were grounded at airports in the Los Angeles region, including those in Orange and San Diego counties, as well as in Las Vegas, Nev.
"They can't take off and anything coming in has been grounded," Brown said.
Control of the airspace was turned over to other air traffic control facilities, including one in Albuquerque, N.M.
All flights at San Francisco International Airport destined for Southern California were grounded, said airport spokesman Mike McCarron.
The airport's duty manager, Dennis Neves, said the airport had taken three diversion flights Monday evening that were headed for Southern California.
One was a Virgin airlines flight from London. Another was a Seattle flight that was scheduled to land in Orange County, but was sitting on the runway at SFO instead. A Northwest cargo flight from Anchorage, Alaska, also was instructed to land at SFO.
"He was running low on fuel," Neves said.
Neves said they would likely keep the passengers on board the planes and refuel, hoping to wait out the problems in the southern half of the state.
At the time of the outage, air traffic controllers could monitor the planes on radar but were not able to communicate with them, Brown said.
Pilots were forced to switched to a different radio frequency to communicate with other control facilities, she said.
"We want to stress there are no safety issues just delays because control over the air space has been turned over to other air traffic facilities," said Gaby Pacheco, spokeswoman for the Los Angeles International Airport.
There was no estimated time as to when the FAA would lift the national ground stop.
Southwest 2236 was first to leave Burbank to Oakland
Southwest 439 just left Van Nuys (!) for Austin
Its back on.
New York sky ....QUIET...you're right...not since 9/11. I'm checking something...be back.
Also strange:
"The cause of the radio failure has not been determined, but authorities were scrambling to identify and fix the problem, Brown said."
I feel bad now for being so flip. If my kid were flying I'd be a basket case as well. Prayers for all.
Northeast Intel Network says IN PART: " Breaking News
The Federal Aviation Authority said the stoppage was ordered after a high-altitude air traffic control facility at Palmdale, east of Los Angeles, lost radio contact with planes within their air jurisdiction. .. "
In essence they are not sure where the planes are - and back logged the planes OR grounded them all? Radio or Al-Quaeda? Any one got any handle on this? http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/
I thought not. I just went out and looked. Nothing.
stop spreading your BS.
Hold on a sec, let me look at the eastern approach to LAX.
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